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I would love to respond to this, but I'm not sure if it is relative to the strike or if it has something to do with a re-run of Highway to Heaven.

Dude, don't quit your day job.

Oh, wait! That's right...!

I'm a salaried person who oversees the work of some hourly employees. Prior to Sikorsky, I worked at many other jobs with various levels of authority, but I have worked my rear end off to achieve all that I have today. I learned young at the hand of my father and grandfather to give an honest day's work for an honest day's pay and now, after they are both long dead, I continue to do so and to raise my children and their children to do the same.

I have some hourly employees who work hard, give it their all and make me proud. The ones who show me the proper respect that I have earned as their supervisor, some of whom came to me for help understanding the proposed contract prior to voting on it so that they would be educated as to the facts on both sides. These are the ones who, if I am asked, I will nominate for continued employment by Sikorsky.

I also have some hourly employees who are slackers. You know the ones, they run home like crybabies if I assign them a task they don't want to do and file grievances against me if I have to hunt them down and tell them to get back to work. They are the ones who sleep in the back of the aircraft, have to go the "bathroom" every five minutes and invent new ways to make old jobs take minutes, hours, even days longer than they should to complete. These are the ones flipping me off as I drive into work each morning and spit on me as I drive out to go home each evening. These are the ones who are verbally abusing some of the very nice, extremely respectable women that I work with who, frankly, have bigger balls than the abusive strikers do by refusing to be intimidated into staying home.

Anyway, I recognize that there are two types of salaried. The hardworkers and the slackers. There are also two categories of hourlies and yes, some are hardworkers and some are slackers. Can you guess which category of salaried will be invited to move with the plant if it relocates? Can you imagine which group of salaried will be the first to get laid off? Can you guess which category of hourly has any chance whatsoever of having a job to come back to when this strike ends?

I've heard it said that not all union members are like some of the bad actors making headlines on the picket line and I know that to be 100% true. I have union friends that are embarrassed right not to be associated with these types. But as I told them, if they are in the minority, then don't let them speak for everyone else.

You level-headed, hardworking, conscientious and caring hourlies, please call HR, call union leadership, call anyone who will listen and make it plain that YOU DON'T AGREE. Don't let the corrupt, thuggish, short-sighted, uneducated and misinformed ones determine your fate.

I will continue to do all I can to support that company that supports my entire family. I will continue to pray for those union members who have the sense but not the wherewithal to oust their negligent union leadership. But most importantly, I will remember how I was treated by my hourly workers - each one, individually and by name - in the days, weeks and months leading up to the strike and in the aftermath of the vote.

I wish much luck to those who deserve it and a change of heart to those who don't.

Does any one have any info on this is this for real? Did this actually happen or is this the teamsters propaganda mill on steroids? I found in another blogg:

http://forum.connpost.com/picketline/archive/2006/02/week_1_large_pe.html#comments

Does one of our salaried bloggers care to COMMENT ON THE GROUND STRIKE THAT OCCURED THIS WEEK. Yes you are reading correct a ground strike on the flight field. Apparently without the benefit of one of our N.A.T.O.P.S. TRAINED & CHECK RIDE CERTFIED brothers in the Back to hold thE piloT back, the pilot Hit the stabilator on the Flight fIeld. How he was able to do that with out packing it into a smok’iN hole in the Ground I’ll never know. I just hope someone is held accountablEfor this I heaRd the FAA is investigating D.C.M.A must be livid.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:29 PM

Boy that slowed the board down!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:34 PM

Get your facts straight.

Posted by: From Salaried Employee at February 25, 2006 07:36 PM

STILL NO REPLIES????????????WHAT GIVES HEREIn AVIATION THE LAWS OF PHYSICS RULE , as some are learning the hard way!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:37 PM

Again, get your facts straight. What you are describing is not 100% truthful. I cannot elaborate more today, except to say your comments are not 100% accurate.

Posted by: From Salaried Employee at February 25, 2006 07:38 PM

O.K. SO just what are the facts? Tell Us.

COME ON TELL US!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:39 PM

Are the union leaders Rocco and Harvey still collect their pay and medical coverage from the Union while brother and sister members are out in the cold?

The reality of this situation is that the strikers are out in the cold with no pay and no way to pay their monthly bills that will arrive in March. The longer the strike presists,credit records will be destroyed, foreclosure on homes and repossession of autos will become the aftermath of this act of solidarity.

While, salary employees are working longer hours and perform jobs that they were not expecting to perform when they were hired. Yes, they are getting paid for the overtime, but its not worth the heart-breaking sight of seeing fellow employees out in the cold with a future that may hold financial disaster.

The strike is jeopardizing everyone's job. Union and salary. As the strike wanes the corporation will be looking to outsource more activities that ever before, so Sikorsky jobs will be vanishing and work will be going out of state.

Hey, look, one of Rockhead's blockheads learned how to cut and paste!

I sat down this morning and have been reading the blogs and comments for the 1st time. It occurs to me that 80% of the comments are from salaried employees. And of these blogs I have read which salary employees seem to write they seem to be rude,uneducated and disrespectful. And you talk about the strikers and their lack of skills and education?

I agree in part. I think both sides are taking it a little too far and making it a little too personal. But unless someone stipulates in their entry that they are salaried or hourly, you really have no way of knowing who is making the comments. And some people could be lying about who they are. It's sad that it happens. Just goes to show what a destructive thing forced unionization really is.

http://www.unionfacts.com/images/press/ad_chainfence.large.jpg

Check out these links for something to consider. Gives new meaning to the phrase, "Here's your sign!"

http://www.unionfacts.com/articles/laborLeaders.cfm

The above link talks about greedy union demands and their impact on industry in America. It is very scary where this thing is headed.

Local 1150 has had ten complaints of unfair labor practices filed against it since 2000 and eight of those were regarding duty of fair representation. Yikes!

ONe person I havent seen lately is Mr finger. Anyone know where he is?

You may not have been fully informed of the contract you voted to strike for, but you now have options. Be informed ! This is from the NLRB website:

2) Decertification (RD)

This petition, which can be filed by an individual, seeks an election to determine whether the authority of a union to act as a bargaining representative of employees should continue. It must be supported by the signatures of 30 percent or more of the employees in the bargaining unit represented by the union. These signatures may be on separate cards or on a single piece of paper. Generally, this showing of interest contains a statement that the employees do not wish to be represented for collective-bargaining purposes by the existing labor organization. The showing of interest must be signed by each employee and each employee's signature must be dated.

Drop the de-certification already. Iy is not going to happen.

Decertification may not be a bad idea. I know I'm not the only one ticked off by what this union has led us to.

to huh?! whereas I may never be a writer you will forever be a dolt. WE DID NOT QUIT. We just opted to to get a piece. FACT: SIK biggest year EVER. FACT: 2006 would put last year to shame. Maybe we win, matbe we lose but at least we make a stand.

What's a dolt and a matbe?

WOW SIK!!! That blotter acid must really be kicking in now. That's so heavy... and radical.

Refusing to go to work to do your job = QUIT. And Sikorsky's profits are not owed to you. Why should someone give you money that belongs to them and not you just because you want it? If you want more, then go someplace else and earn more. If you have not purchased shares of UTX, then you have no right to demand a share of the profits.

A History Of Violations

Virtually every U.S. labor union faces allegations of violating labor law. Consider the number of charges filed against these unions between 1998 and 2004:

United Food and Commercial Workers - 2,161
Teamsters - 6,909
Service Employees International Union - 3,910
Steelworkers - 1,912

Source: data supplied by the Bureau of National Affairs

Unfair Labor Practices

When most people think of violations of labor law, they think first of "Big Business." But employees, employers, and labor organizations file thousands of charges each year—called "Unfair Labor Practices"—alleging violations of labor law by union leaders.

The National Labor Relations Board disclosed in its 2004 annual report that:

Unions faced a total of 6,917 allegations of wrongdoing

80 percent of those charges were filed by individuals

Unions filed more than 100 charges against other unions

81 percent of charges alleged illegal restraint and coercion of employees

More than 600 charges alleged illegal discrimination against employees, an increase of about 6 percent from 2003

The Supreme Court decision Communication Workers of America v. Beck [487 U.S. 735] (1988) held that an employee cannot be forced to join a union even if there is a “union shop� clause in the contract. Since an employee cannot be required to join a union, an employee also cannot be terminated for refusing to join a union, even if a contract says otherwise. The most an employee can be required to do is to pay his or her portion of a union's costs for collective bargaining, contract administration, and grievance adjustment (the agency fee). Also, a union may not restrict the right of its members to resign from the union at any time, even during a strike.

This week week was an intresting start. What an honor to eperience this. Negativity was very strong on both sides. Lets see if there is any positives this coming week and from which side???
How will positve energy affect the process????

Stay tuned!!!

What a great country this is "America". Today I am still free to say "No or Yes " to the big corporations. I'm UNION and I'm FREE.

This could be an intresting journey for us all John.

Good work!

Mr. Gozzi: I think it's time for a new blog entry. I would love to see you do one that would give the people here with comments a chance to comment on how they, if they were an official of Sikorsky Aircraft or a union leader, would fix the problem. Kind of a what would you do if you were in their place thing. And if commenters would keep their comments to the question and not bashing, that would be great, too.

Unfortunatly, the bashing will likely continue, as long as the bashers hide behind pseudonyms.
A lot of what is going on here could be considered as phsyc-ops tactics.(sp?)
I believe that most of what I see printed here is by those who would like to see the union disbanded, and go away. Divide and conquer, right?

Fair enough, Larry. If you were either Rocco Calo or Steve Finger, how would you settle the dispute?

Well, since no one else will, I will take the challenge!

First, if I were Steve Finger...

If I were Steve Finger, I would offer the union a new contract. It would be the exact same contract as before, except without the $2k ratification bonus. Then I would get everyone back to work, where they would face a new, more strict discipline policy to cut down on slacking, sandbagging, disrespecting superiors, absenteeism, etc. I would cut out ALL overtime and shift around the people/hours/work to where overtime is no longer necessary. I would monitor this situation for a couple of months while I scouted alternate locations in right-to-work states. Once I found the site for my new plant, I would lay off anyone who is a troublemaker or simply not productive. All those who add value without unnecessarily driving up costs would be offered a chance to relocate. All others would be let go.

Second, if I were Rocco Calo...

If I were Rocco Calo, I would first gather union members for a discussion of the recent events and ask for a polling of all members on whether or not they would re-vote to ratify if given the opportunity. Then I would call Elizabeth Amato and ask for a meeting with Sikorsky officials to re-open negotiations. If they put the same health plan back on the table, I would take it and I would recommend that everyone else take it, too. I would also have union officials strictly monitor happenings at the gate and toss out anyone being too loud, using profanity or being abusive. I would enact a new rule that would eliminate all noise-making after nine pm, since there are residents suffering from the noise, especially at night. I would instruct union members to be respectful of the salaried people for whom they may eventually have to go back to work.

If I were either I'd buy stock in Bell Helicopter...

Too funny!

I don't think it is bashing to ask people their opinions or to provide information. Yes, there is a lot of bashing going on, but I've seen a lot of valuable information on here, too, such as how the Cigna plans really work, how to call for a decertification election, what salaried people are doing to help out during this crisis to name just a few.

From the hourly side, there seem to be quite a few hourly posters here that are upset, feel that the vote was not fair, don't want to be lumped with those bad actors on the picket line and who disagree with union tactics enough that they are now interested in change. I don't think it is bashing to post factual information on how to de-unionize. Salaried people don't care if you belong to a union or not, they gain nothing by posting info on how to disband. I don't think anyone is trying to "divide and conquer," the union leadership did that by the way they handled the negotiations and subsequent vote.

Just my two cents. I wanted to start a dialogue that would encourage people to look at how they would change the situation if they were in charge. I thought it would help put minds to more productive things than bashing, but if Larry wants to be a victim, there's nothing I can do about that.

"neutral observer" has quite possibly hit the nail on the head.....
hope Rocco is reading this......a union meeting is definitely in order, and the sooner the better.

Decertification Election??? When hell freezes over!!! Out TOGETHER... In TOGETHER... AS LONG AS IT TAKES. That's the attitude of 95% of the good people out in the cold right now. (And I voted to RATIFY the contract.) It's only been a week and we can hold out for MONTHS. Hourly workers are resourceful, resilient and very capable of adapting to the situation. We don't live by the "every man for himself" philosophy. Good luck with keeping your customers happy! And spare me the replies about how "I'm lucky to have a job", "I'll be working at McDonalds", "I'm an unskilled, ignorant laborer" etc. I'm already working, the bills are paid, and I enjoy a pretty comfortable lifestyle. GOOD LUCK TEAMSTERS.

Take a step back and try to feel all the hate spewing on these boards and blogs.
Stop Please stop.
PLEASE REMEMBER these are annonymous boards and people may not be who they are portraying themselves to be! They are fueling the fire solely for their own amusement.
Cooler heads are trying to stop the abuse on the picket lines, we need these same type of people on the inside to step up to help with ending this destructive path we are all on.

What if there is an accident or even worse,God forbid a crash? How are we all going to feel? Would it have been worth it for any price? Do you think SF and TH will give a damn?
How many of us lost friends in the last tragedy at Sikorsky? We mourned as a company. Not as hourly and salary but as human beings.
We are being played like chess pieces, PLEASE DONT LET THIS HAPPEN, Everyone cool Down! Please

Teamster,
If you hold out for months, it will cost you more in lost wages than the increase in health care would. That would make no sense at all.

And I need to mention again... just because something doesn't go your way, doesn't make it unfair. And how unfair can it be, since still no one has said where you get a more fair deal working for a private company. Make folks I know ask me about the strike because they know I work there. And when I tell them all the benefits of the proposed contract, all they can say is... "Wow, that health care is STILL cheaper than what I am paying! Why would they go on strike for THAT?" To which I just shrug my shoulders.

How's it going up there brother Teamsters? A few of the boys and myself flew down to West Palm to show a little support to our southern brothers. What with modern technology and the CT Post Blog I figured no sense everybody freezing their butt off. Here I am sitting on the beach at Singer Island and I can use a laptop to see what's going on up there! I heard the weather turned cold, be sure to dress warm!! Harvey, stop by the house and pick up my blue Speedo. I'll have the Limo at PBI around 12:30 - you'll be on the beach by 2! One more thing, grab my cell, I left it on the kitchen table. I want to see if anybody called.

"Neutral Observer"? I don't think so.
Tell me, will the same slacker castigation apply to salary and contractors as well?
Sadly, this is ONE of the reasons why unions exist in the first place,to ensure that salary does not go on vendettas against those they do not like.

For grammer:
a dolt is a stupid person or one that cannot spell maybe. my bad.
ps it's grammar if that's what you are alluding to

(To Rocky C... 3 posts above) Heyyyyy "Rock"!!! Is that you??? Yeah... had to break out the long johns this morning. I'd come down for a week, but not if your sporting a Speedo! Don't strain your neck checkin' out all the thongs down there. Have a cold one for us!!! (Gotta LOVE it!)

PS, Give my warmest regards to all the girls over at The Landing Strip!!!

Good morning to all, hourly and salaried alike. No reason to not be civilized about this, eh? Considering this morning's negative temps, I think salaried can afford to be a little more indulgent. And in light of the fact that salaried personnel continue to perform above and beyond the call during this crisis, hourly can afford to be a little more respectful.

I'd like to comment on today's article in the CT Post, "Stratford nightmare not likely." The tone of the article was that Sikorsky will never leave Stratford because of its history here. Not just the history of Sikorsky, but the history of Igor Sikorsky and vertical flight.

I have to point out that it doesn't do much to honor Igor or the history of vertical flight to let a labor dispute bankrupt the business. If Sikorsky can continue to grow and prosper elsewhere, then it would make financial sense to move it elsewhere. Perhaps the old location in Stratford could be used as a museum. It would be a fitting place for some of the old relics I see walking the picket line.

No offense or disrespect intended, but maybe it is time for some new thinking to permeate the union ranks. We are well into the 2000s. 1963 was a long time ago, lots of change has taken place, with one important exception... the vast majority of union leaders are still corrupt.

ATTENTION ALL UNION MEMBERS: I'm not 100% I understand what is going on here. The Local 1150 website says in big, bright red SIKORSKY AIRCRAFT UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE. Would someone please enlighten me as to what that unfair labor practice is? I'm just curious. Someone educate me, please. Thanks.

The Act defines the following Unfair Labor Practices for Employers:

Section 8(a)(1)-Intereference with Section 7 Rights (the rights of employees guaranteed by the Act)
Section 8(a)(2)-Domination or Illegal Assistance and Support of a Labor Organization
Section 8(a)(3)-Discrimination Against Employees
Section 8(a)(4)-Discrimination for NLRB Activity
Section 8(a)(5)-Refusal to Bargain in Good Faith
Section 8(e)-Entering a Hot Cargo Agreement

Thanks, but which one of these is the union accusing Sikorsky of? Or are they accusing them of all six? Please, union members, does anyone know?

I, too, would like clarification on which unfair labor practice Sikorsky is being accused of. I haven't heard anything on this blog or in the news coverage that would indicate they are guilty of anything in the list provided by Trying to help. Can any hourlies our there fill us in?

As an hourly worker, I do not claim to be a neutral observer, and think that the strike has opened eyes on both sides of the fence. Sikorsky did not believe that the hourly work force would strike, due to mortgage payments and generally a decent standard of living, and hourly people expected the company to cave at the last minute. I think the bigger problem was that the hourly workforce did not realize that it was not Sikorsky negotiators driving the wedge for the health care package but UTC holding the line and couldn't care less if Sikorsky went on strike.
UTC is stockholder driven and Sikorsky is a very small part of it. UTC can hold off for quite a while and let both hourly and salaried employees suffer through this.
A previous entry asked what can be done now?
Naturally getting back to the table would be a good start, but rather than have the politicians write to Sikorsky management about sitting down, how about asking UTC management to allow Sikorsky to try to renegotiate a reasonably solution.
Hourly workers know that health care costs are going up and we are not unwilling to increase our share of the costs, but the UTC/Sikorsky proposal asks a bit too much of people with families. Single people increases are not that unreasonable but family increases seem to be a bit more radical . The examples the company uses to explain relates to a single person, how would that example stack up to a family? I don't believe that would be an example the company would use. There must be some middle ground that both sides can agree to.

Hourly lurker, do you know or have you been told specifically which unfair labor practice Sikorsky is supposedly guilty of? I'm trying to get brought up to speed on the legalities of the issue, but so far no one is responding to my question. (By the way, I'm not being sarcastic, I really want to know.)

We are a family that is on the same health plan you voted to reject. That would be two adults and four children, my spouse is the salaried employee. The insurance my Sikorsky spouse has is far better than any insurance plans my various employers have offered in my twenty years in the work force. While it is true that it is more than hourlies used to pay, it is not even remotely as bad as some of you make it out to be and much better than what many people have. You don't always get what you want in life, but this does provide you with what you really need and at a price that is reasonable. You may disagree and that is your right, but if you get the chance to vote on it again, I would strongly urge all union members to make sure they have a chance to review each plan in the health care package being offered and see how it relates specifically to you. You may be surprised to find that it is not as bad as you think it is.

Curious, I have not been told specifically or officially but the word on the line is
Section 8(a)(5)-Refusal to Bargain in Good Faith, because the company was unwilling (or unable via UTC) to modify the health care plan. It was put on the table by the company and told the union it would not negotiate any changes.
Luv, I do not necessarily disagree with you, but also realize that other companies plan may take into consideration that the other spouse has good health care coverage which allows you to be more selective. I also think that had UTC/Sikorsky been a little more reasonable to negotiate, much of this could have been avoided. I don't mean to cave in to all demands, but at least allow both sides a "political" win.

Thank you much for the reply, hourly lurker. But I am still confused, because according to the NLRA, "Bargaining obligations are imposed equally on the employer and the representative of its employees. It is an unfair labor practice for either party to refuse to bargain collectively with the other. THE OBLIGATION DOES NOT, HOWEVER, COMPEL EITHER PARTY TO AGREE TO A PROPOSAL BY THE OTHER, NOR DOES IT REQUIRE EITHER PARTY TO MAKE A CONCESSION TO THE OTHER."

From what I understand of the situation, the company is holding firm on the health care plan, but they did, when the union first refused it, agreed to hold off on implementing the plan for another year to give union members time to prepare for the financial impact. Also, wage increases were given to help offset the cost and the company did back down on the voluntary Alternate Work Week proposal.

True, the company is adamant about having everyone on the same plan, but they have also shown they are willing to make financial concessions to help ease the initial burden on the workers. To me, that is the epitome of bargaining in good faith. While the company has made a business management decision as to the health plan, they certainly have been willing to negotiate ways to make that health plan work for everyone. I'm sorry, but unless anyone can give me better information, I don't see an unfair labor practice here on the part of the company.

Comments, anyone?

Lets try to get some positive dicussion going
Ignore the hateful annonymous people that are posting on this blog. The good people are a majority on both sides. We need to chase the hatemongers off these boards. They are not helping anyone.
IGNORE ALL MEANSPIRITED AND HURTFUL POSTS!THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY ON EITHER SIDE.

Thank you Curious for clarifying that, you seem to be extremely well informed, and if that is so, you should also understand how easily it is to miscontrue the political statements that have been flying on both sides.
Whether it is an unfair labor practice or not, and whether either of us agree, the issue is still the same. How does anyone promote negotiations to resume on both sides? If the company decides to come back to the bargaining table will it be taken as a sign of weakness, more than likely unless the federal mediator can use the media to create a "Camp David" style discussion.
Currently I believe this a more a political fight than anything else. Can the union make UTC change it's position? Probably unlikely, since all the other unions under UTC are watching carefully to see what happens and how that will relate to their negotiations. Can the company soothe the bruised egos of the union leadership without showing weakness? Again probably not.
Could the financial concessions be put into a medical savings account or something similar to help reduce the cost to the employees, and withdrawn over the course of the contract? Maybe, if both sides were willing to sit down again.
I believe if the those concessions were not put into such a fund, human nature being as such, would show that people would just spend it and still complain about the higher cost of health care.

Agreed, Hourly Lurker, agreed. From your side of the fence, it would seem that what needs to happen is Rocco needs to take the initiative, because I think the company has pretty much said here's what we're offering, let us know when you're ready to talk. Not sure who is supposed to make the first move in this situation, but I don't think it really matters at this point. I would like to see the federal mediator step in and set up a meeting with both parties and see what happens from that. That way, neither side has to take the first step or admit to weakness. I think that the only thing union members can really do is hound the hell out of their leadership to get back to the table and ask for proof that contact has been made. Rocco making statements to the press that he wants to negotiate is not the same as formally contacting the company and requesting that talks be re-opened. So I hope this happens and soon, because a decision needs to be made one way or another, either way, to protect everyone involved.

I also second the motion of Saddened Hourly to keep posts productive and keep the hate posts to a bare minimum. Those don't really accomplish a thing.

Hourly worker, Forigve me if this has been said before, but I would like to give anyone who cares to read a brief overview of the healthcare plan.

Option 1 provides the most coverage for families and costs the most.

The premiums are $52.15 a week as of January 2007. This comes out to $2711.80 per year per family. It increase to $3218.80 the 2nd year and $3784.04 the 3rd year.

You pay the first $500 in medical bills for your family. The insurance then kicks in and pays the bills at 80% and you pay the remaining 20%. But there is a limit to what you pay out of your own pocket. When paying your 20% of the bills, you will only have to cover $3000 over the course of the year. So worse case scenario, you have to go in the hospital and the bill is $200,000 - you pay only $3000.

The RX plan is very good - if you use mail-order. In the same Option 1 - you can get a 90 day supply of Tier 1 generic drugs for $15, 90 day supply of Tier 2 preferred brand drugs for $40 and 90 day supply of Tier 3 drugs for $90. An example of a Tier 3 drug would be Lipitor. So if you use mail order, the most you will pay for an Rx is $90 for a 3 month supply.

So yes it is more than you have been paying. But it is less than what most people in the private sector are paying. You're also making a lot more than many in the private sector.

Well, that's my effort for today. I hope this helps someone who is struggling to understand the health plan.

Now, try and find a doctor that wants to give a 90 day supply of medication. Any doctor I have ever been will only give 30 days so they get an office visit each month for a medication check and refill.

I use mail order for my maintenace medication. My doctor writes the rx for 90 pills with 4 refills because I take it every day. But my condition only requires me to see him every 3 months, not every month. If you show your doctor your plan, I'm sure he will write the rx as you ask. You are paying him, he does work for you. If he won't, maybe you need to find a new doctor.

Well, I am a SIK Salaried female employee and frankly if I could strike against how horrible this company has been to us as well, I would. Yes the hourly people have been disrespectful to the Salary folks at times during the strike but not as disrespectful as the company has been to myself or to them.

I wish I only had to pay $52 per week for the best insurance plan. I am currently paying over $120 per week for middle of the road insurance - with a deductible and yearly cap. I am not represented by a Union - the company I work for gives me three choices to pick from each year - that is that.

Just because you are in a Union does not mean you are entitled to anything more that anyone else employed by non-union companies get. What gives you the privilege to pay less for a Medical Plan than I do?

Everyone needs to wake up. The big corporations are not longer soaking up medical insurance costs. If you want your jobs farmed out to others... keep striking. You'll end up with nothing, and Stratford will lose its number one taxpayer.

Points made about open fires, picketers walking across the street, interrupting traffic, and the Police doing nothing - it all makes sense! The Police are Union too. They are not about to bite the hand that feeds them. They would rather issue tickets to the citizens driving by. I wonder what the police would do to someone if they drove by and flipped the picketers off and yelled a couple of slurs. For sure a ticket would be the result.

Suck it up - get off the street and get back to work.

To Sik Salary: You are free to leave at any time if you are unhappy with your job situation. I am also a salaried Sikorsky employee and I absolutely love my job. I am treated very well by my manager on up the ladder. Perhaps the problem is not them, but YOU. Just some food for thought.

I have never, ever had a problem getting a 90-day supply of maintenance drugs and I am on the same health plan the union rejected. We have always used plan doctors and it has never been a problem. Having a plan like this actually protects you from having doctors who make you keep coming back for a new script.

Unions protect unions. Why doesn't everyone call the police and fire dept. and insist that they enforce the laws equally... including the strikers... open fires aren't allowed for others and shouldn't be for them. Public pressure may help. Also, why not some press coverage on that?

To Sik Salary - You are obviously very unhappy, but you are in the minority. I find that people who feel they are entitled to things in life are rarely happy. If you cannot accept things with a grateful attitude and instead have a gimme attitude, you can't find the joy in things. If you start to look at things from a different perspective... one of gratitude, you'd see things differently. Like - you are luck in this day and age to have a job anywhere; you are lucky to have the opportunity and ability to pay health insurance; you are lucky to have a roof over your head and food on the table and clothes on your back. You're lucky to be warm and dry when you to that home. You're lucky to be able to afford a car and maybe a vacation occasionally... And most of all, you're lucky you're an American because you have the freedom to take any job you can find that you like better... and the freedom to speak your mind.
You should consider an attitude change. No one should be that unhappy. Life is too short and you may be shortening the lives of those around you, if you keep complaining. :)

Anonymous - you need to change doctors. He's just after your money. My husband, daughter, son, daughter-in-law and myself are on long term meds. Each of us has a different doctor and all give 90-day scripts. Also try Costco. It's cheaper than anywher else and worth the membership for monthly scripts. Remember... Change is inevitable in life.

I am not directly involved in this, but I know a salaried person, a union person who believes completely in the strike and a union person who voted to ratify and feels dragged into the strike.
The perspectives are interesting.
The salaried person is very proud of their job and loves to go to work doing something interesting and important. They feel the healthcare costs are too high, but so are everyone's. Would they like them to be lower? Sure, but they focus on the fact that they have a job and are grateful for a good paying job. They work long hours every week and don't get any overtime, but that goes with the territory when you are a professional. During the strike, they feel rejuvinated. The morale inside has never been higher. Everyone is a real team for the first time since they started working there. They don't like being abused on the way to work, but consider the source. It was only a surprise the first day. They are excited about learning and doing a new job and take pride in their work ethic and the fact that they are doing something to help. They want to take advantage of the wonderful education package, but with their crazy hours, it hasn't been possible. They wish the strike would end.

The union worker who voted to ratify is very proud of his job. He feels grateful that despite the fact that he only has a high school education, he has a great paying job with ANY benefits. He knows that he has very few alternatives in Connecticut... retail or fast food being the majority. He was looking forward to taking advantage of the education policy, but doesn't know what's going to happen now. He is frustrated and angry that he was dragged into this even though he doesn't believe in it. He wants to be able to pay his bills and lives in fear that he'll need to see a doctor. He worries about people he knows going through this who also don't believe in it who have kids or an illness that needs attention and they can't afford it. He wonders if he'll be able to recover financially once this is over. He's trying to work up the courage to stand up for himself and make the calls to stand on the side that he believes in. He wants to go to work. He would continue to have a good attitude like he did before the strike, but worries how he will be seen by others because of his connection with the vocal minority. He wants the strike to end.

the union person who voted to strike used to love his job. He's no longer proud of what he does. He's nearing retirement and hasn't loved his job in many years. He is a loyal union man, which to him means doing what they tell him to do. He can't understand why the younger workers don't want to and want to make their own decisions. He also can'tunderstand why the younger workers want to work all day and have to be told over and over to slow down. After all, because of the union, they have a "good thing going". He has complained about the company for years but is holding out for retirement. He never took advantage of the education plan and doesn't see the point. Why would you want to join salary? That would be walking away from the union. He has always seen the company as a union vs. salary situation. He has never felt like he was an important member of a team. He complains about walking the picket line. He complains about the salaried people working. He believes what he's being told. He wants the strike to end.... when the union says its OK to want that.

These are real people in my life. I am close to all of them. I find their perspectives interesting, but I must say that I feel the last person is misguided. People must continually change and grow, especially in this fast changing global economy. If you cease to change and adapt, you could become extinct.

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Well people, guess what they did now? The word on the street is that in addition to the incident below, guess what happened now???

Again this is just, the word on the street, don’t have any hard facts here. Feel free to comment my salary brothers & sisters.

As I received a termination letter recently, company policy no longer applies so I can BLOGG AWAY!

Someone who obtained a P.I.V. license from a bubble gum machine damaged an aircraft in the Military Hangar.

D.C.M.A. HAS THEM SHUT DOWN! I hope the Skipper doesn’t get sacked over this. If it’s true it’ll be a hell of a way to end an otherwise great military career.

OH WELL, You know what they say, "LIVE BY THE FINGER, DIE BY THE FINGER!" I can recall a time when our brothers had choppers stacked like cordwood, (ah ha, All Of The Good Hangar Stackers Are Outside Stacking Cordwood). Not as much as a scratch would get put on those choppers.

What I want to know is how can the do this they only had 4 birds in the hangar, & don’t tell me the place is banging them out. The assembly line is a ghost town, the salary workers that are there are demoralized, & don’t want to be there!

SCORE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE UNION! GOOOOOO TEAM
UNION – 2
COMPANY - 0

Does any one have any info on this is this for real? Did this actually happen or is this the teamsters propaganda mill on steroids? I found in another blogg:

http://forum.connpost.com/picketline/archive/2006/02/week_1_large_pe.html#comments

Does one of our salaried bloggers care to COMMENT ON THE GROUND STRIKE THAT OCCURED THIS WEEK. Yes you are reading correct a ground strike on the flight field. Apparently without the benefit of one of our N.A.T.O.P.S. TRAINED & CHECK RIDE CERTFIED brothers in the Back to hold thE piloT back, the pilot Hit the stabilator on the Flight fIeld. How he was able to do that with out packing it into a smok’iN hole in the Ground I’ll never know. I just hope someone is held accountablEfor this I heaRd the FAA is investigating D.C.M.A must be livid.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:29 PM

Boy that slowed the board down!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:34 PM

Get your facts straight.

Posted by: From Salaried Employee at February 25, 2006 07:36 PM

STILL NO REPLIES????????????WHAT GIVES HERE In AVIATION THE LAWS OF PHYSICS RULE , as some are learning the hard way!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:37 PM

Again, get your facts straight. What you are describing is not 100% truthful. I cannot elaborate more today, except to say your comments are not 100% accurate.

Posted by: From Salaried Employee at February 25, 2006 07:38 PM

O.K. SO just what are the facts? Tell Us.

COME ON TELL US!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 25, 2006 07:39 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at February 26, 2006 11:45 AM

sik saiary well finaly someone from the other side speaks the truth come join us on the line

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"How many people would kill to have our jobs?
We need...�

Your question should have been, How many people WILL BE KILLED BEFORE WE have our jobs BACK?

That is an answer I do not have, in 1996 it was 4. You may recall good old Irwin. While he was killing off inspection, KAYDON burned. (Totally off the subject here, but did not someone once say something like that about Julius Ceasar?)

Sikorsky's senior stable of MBAs suffers from a lack of healthy fear that aviation presents on a continuing basis. Aviation doesn't suffer fools lightly. Aviation doesn't care if you’re an hourly or salary employee. If you mess up it will be reported on the obituary page. The sad part is that the name on the obituary page is usually not the person who created the situation that leads to a disaster. That's how it went down in May of 1996!

One of good old Irwin’s fellow VP’s, (the last of a breed that came up through the ranks & knew how an aircraft was built referred to him as, “Irwin, you ??? bastard!
As I am not an anti-Semite I will let you fill in the blank. I’ll give you a hint, 3 letter word, first letter follows I in the alphabet, last letter is a W.

Thanks to the one guy that waves and tells us
to "have a good day". He holds his signs to let us know the issues. He has always been a freind and knows that its not presonal.
Some may say that he has some poor judgement, when the see his favorite sports team. But, aside from that he is a smart, well spoken, religous man. Who is only looking out for his
family.
The top of this blog issue was a nice tribute!

Best of all people w can talk...

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