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So basically what you are saying is that all of these people out there picketing could have been working all of this time on the old contract, but because of the greed of the union, they are now not allowed to collect their paycheck. Did these people know that this was even an option, or were they not told this at the time of the vote. I really do not think that Sikorsky would have kept them out if they really wanted to keep working in good faith. They would not have wanted the bad press and all of this could have been avoided. It is really sad to think that this all could have been avoided if the union officials had been up front and honest with their members from the beginning, and given them another option other than striking!

I couldn't agree with you more.
Good article....

Mr. Gozzi-Your posts are getting more and more ridiculous as the the strike progresses. I am really questioning the integrity of the Connecticut Post by them allowing you to continue this blog. Yesterdays was particularly absurd..you claim that 'now' you have more respect for women...is that implying that you had little to begin with? You must have been one of the strikers yelling those disparaging comments to female employees in the beginning of the strike...

censorship what a concept go figure and from a news paper.

Well John, not sure if you want to call it strategy, business, one last chance, desperation, or an opportunity…. But the longer this goes on, more work areas are being moved out to suppliers and away from us. As an engineer that has worked with you many times, the outcome of this situation will not benefit anyone. As jobs are moved out of Stratford and Bridgeport to other parts of CT, other parts of the northeast and other parts of the country, there are less and less positions needed for hourly and for salary. And for what? This has gone past pride, now it will begin to cost both hourly and salary jobs. There are people I work with today and people you walk with tomorrow that may not have a job in 3months.

We take great pride in the positions that we salary hold and the parts that we are currently making, but the longer this goes on the more resentment I and many of my fellow co-workers will have towards the union workers holding out, yelling at us, when all along we are working as hard as we can to keep our jobs and yours here in Sikorsky. It’s because we understand that some of us will/may lose our jobs when this is all over and it is because of .31 cents an hour. We have taken our hit on health care, I understand that small sacrifices by some continue happiness for everyone. Some posts are correct in saying that we can't do it without the hourly employees, well we can't meet the rate numbers but we can meet the quality. But it gives the company a time period when outsource can continue, future parts that were planned to be outsourced are now accelerated at full speed ahead. It’s depressing to see this work packed up and leave the building and it must be even harder for those of you on the line watching the trucks roll by.

I have no advise, no fancy journalistic wording with phrases from old books, just a view on what we see inside and what we are beginning to feel and learn as this thing continues.

You have to show up to have any chance at winning unemployment. DOL regards the employee as the victim in most cases and typically weighs in their favor. The union not showing up (as reported by the CT. Post) is inexcusable.

The blog just got boring with the censorship you have implemented. What ever happened to freedom of speech? For all that didn't like what was being said they shouldn't have been reading it. It's that simple. Samw with TV. You don't like it then change the channel!!!

The only non negotiable item in the contract was the 80 / 20 health care plan. The union chose to pick that item to make their stand & strike for it. Poor strategy if you ask me. Battle done, war lost. Ratify & come back to work.

The strike down here in Fla. is a little different than the one in CT, I hear. Far less intimidation tactics on the line, but the feelings are more personal, and for the same reasons. Everyone down here knows each other; its not a anonymous striker blaring an airhorn at you, its a coworker who you either liked or disliked prior to the strike. Just like CT, work relationships in WPB go back decades in most cases. AND two strikers have wives who cross the line daily to go to their salary jobs. Just a situation some in CT may find interesting.

As far as "statego", I wonder if Goz is giving both parties too much credit. My gut feel is that both the Union and Company are in react-mode to a situation neither thought that they would be in. Not a lot of long-term stategy in that!

I am sorry to see the disagreements between the salary and hourly workers on strike. I understand the problems but I do think that the union needs to consider a couple of items. The health plan issue is probably never going to change even if you stay out forever. If you go anywhere in the country you will have a similar plan if you are lucky. Most of you would be paying three to four hundred dollars a month. Mine is $450. You are better paid than 80% or more of the working class in this country. Look around and see where you would work if you cannot get back into Sikorsky or you are laid off due to outsourcing. The money you are loosing on strike you will never make up. The freindships you loose through this cannot be repaired. Those harsh words will never be forgotten. If you must stay out forever remember you can never have enough freinds.

It is very obvious to my wife and I that Teamsters Local 1150 did not do their homework. Why in God's name did they think they could take UTC in such a head on manner? There were many things that UTC put on the table that were fair and the only thing that really was going to cost us money was healthcare or a strike. Now think about it... Isn't it better to go to work and pay an extra $25 a/wk in a co-pay, maybe hmmmm a few dollars here or there on perscription, and let's say a higher co-pay on surgery? Now let's weigh that against ALL the work that we have, ALL the overtime that we have and let's also talk about ALL the people that really need the health insurance and would be willing to pay the extra $3,000 for one of their very sick family members that might end up with a bill of $100,000 in a catastrophic situation! Penny wise and pound foulish?! Probably! Misrepresented by the Union? Definitely! Also, the company has not raised healthcare cost; they only ask for an extra $25 a/wk. Just an observation.

4 weeks. ive had it. lost $10.000 dollars already. i quit

Get ready ~ what you see this week will amaze all of you who think you can't be replaced. I really hope some of you have taken time to check out other jobs, because you are going to need them. The war you are going to have to "win" will be finding a job that has any of the perks you get at SAC. Lotsa luck ~ that battle is going to make this one look like a cakewalk.

Hey Goz. Dont shut this thing down I know some things we read were of no information but these people need a place to vent.

I for one agree with your statements. I am not for SIK. I am for you guys. But one fact can not be ignored. SIK and UTC are not stupid. In fact, they probably have a team of folks specially trained in these matters, advising them step by step. You guys have one heck of a war on your hands. They are thinking 10 steps deep and probably had all of these moves thought out a month or two before the strike even began. And don't be naive, they have another 50 steps already planned out and ready to go.

Good luck folks. Hang in there. Don't panic. But at the same time, be realistic. You need to realize that SIK has more leverage than you do. Analyze the situation for yourself with your heart and mind. Don't let the Teamsters influence your decisions or votes. Remember, they have their own agenda and butt to cover, but ultimately they should be voicing YOUR opinions, not their own.

Ask yourself this right now. If you had another chance to vote on the original contract right now, what would you do? If you would vote to accept it, then why didn't the union take the last proposal? No, really, why didn't they accept the last proposal? Dig deep for that answer.

Best regards.....

After already losing 4 weeks of normal pay, and the posible OT that I could have made during that time, The bank statements are getting closer to negatives, I', living off my tax return right now, and in essance...I'm about to give up. If there is no good news shortly, then I'll have to resort to groveling for money or I'll just have to cross and see what my future will be. I could have had a decent vacation this year for all the hard work that I have gave the company, but now...if we do get back, then that vacation money will just be used to pay bills and get out of the red.

This strike was a bad idea from the beginning, and everyone that can do the math, has already found that what we are fighting for, has already gone beyond the price that was expected to pay for the medical for the next 3 years. Rocco and the other guys on the board, knew about the proposed contract 6 months before the vote, and now it's almost a month after the vote, and they still have no progress...I can only hope that something gets on the table, so we can get back to work.

Be careful after Monday strikers.....letters are going out......

Yes, but can 1150 really hope to win this war? I don't think so. Has anyone checked with the regional office of the NLRB to see if any charges have officially been charged? I have not seen Sikorsky acknowledge receipt of a complaint, which makes me wonder.

And the productivity bomb would only score an effective hit if they were not planning on moving most major operations out of state. If this was their plan in the long run, then they would obviously have prepared for a period of low productivity.

Just end this!!
We need to wake up and understand this situation.
I am not throwing 25yrs of service out the window for a bunch of half-educated thugs.

You are so off on the theory, the unions position is that we are on strike. This disqualifies unemployment. It is between the state and the company to decide if it was truly a lockout or not... Local 1150 has no power to change that.

I've adjusted my work day during the strike to arrive at the Stratford facility before 6am. The first few weeks were no problem very little traffic drove right into the parking lot. The second two weeks I’ve seen a steady increase of cars coming into the plant and the lower lot filling up by 7:30 am. The natural question is who are all these people? I decided to walk the shop floor yesterday afternoon and it looks like the teamsters never left. I know the guys and gals walking the line will never believe this until they see it with their own eyes but the aircraft are moving. There is a lot of unemployed licensed and certified aerospace manufacturing talent in the USA that SAC has found away to tap into.

I know You'll say all those aircraft where ready to move out prior to the strike and I would have to agree with you on the first few flying over the fence however there are three more Blackhawk’s on the flight field ready for customer flights acceptance. The line keeps moving and what back shops have not been outsourced are up and running producing aircraft parts. I’m truly concerned that the only thing this strike is going to achieve is the loss of more union jobs and it has allowed the acceleration of the exodus of more high paying manufacturing jobs from Connecticut.

I have a family member that is out there walking the line and he will not cross the line. I support his decision as everyone must do what they feel is right but with that goes the responsibility of living with the outcome and not blaming someone else for the additional loss of jobs that could have been averted. Take back your Union from the fools you are currently following.

I hope all of you who are hard liners start thinking outside the box. As well I hope all of those hard workers who want to come back have the backbone to say "Bu Bye" to Thugsville. If you have a good work ediquet about you, dont worry about "protection". Show up, work, get paid. Its easy! Its much harder to be a union sheep.

I called HR 2 weeks ago and nobody told me I HAD to resign from the union. I was told I SHOULD resign from the union to protest myself from any possible fines the union could levy against me.
Also, there should have been the 3rd option on the ballot-Do NOT accept, continue work-. This is a very common option, has been there in the past and one that should be on the next contract.

Well I am exhausted--- Very exhausted. I hate to see my work family being insulted in the way the Union is doing so. I am also VERY suprised at some of the Union stewards and officials with children of special medical needs behaving so irrational. The Union members have always been there for those familys in need when the $$ got tight to take up the slack, and they have the nerve to not only MF the company, but put all the members on the street as well. Did you guys think of the others that stood by you but now they are in the time of need? They may even have thier names on "List" because they need to provide for their sick or dying ones and the "Union" has the NERVE to call them SCABS. They are people with compasion and strength...strenght the union would never understand.

the battle was lost 7 months ago when the co. said 80/20. why are we still battling?? it will not change, only definet is jobs will be lost. I have have seen many changes in the shop that prove it. Talk to someone other than a teamster and really think it over. The mind is a powerful thing and the scare tactics are in your mind. Get over the fear and you will cross. The co. needs you but most importantly is you need this job. Im not kidding, the e board is pulling straws with your future.

I see Sikorsky being a non-union shop by the end of '06. Anyone have thoughts on that?

if you all can't see the trucks going out with jobs and the vans coming in with replacement workers, then i don't know what it takes for you to see your futures drift away. To the 'good guys': come back now, the company is ready to strike back, and it aint gonna be pretty. be on the right side of this thing!!

Why don't all of us punch on rocco't face and tell him how we feel! send rocco the e-mails not this blog. everyone seems afraid to tell rocco how they feel. Tell him! send him e-mail's. I have, tell him you have to go back to work! I can't last 3 more weeks i will have to cross. can not pay my bill's anymore sorry but with no income coming in the savings go real fast. i will try to support my teamsters but at the end i think they will all hate me. for this i'm sorry, but i have to keep a roof over my kids head. I can not be the only one that is having truble paying my bills. Why are we striking again rocco said at the meeting wendsday that we had to accept the 80/20 so why won't he let us go back to work. WHY?????????????

Can anyone answer a question for me with certainty? Can the company ever keep the replacement workers they are hiring? I am salary and we too hear rumor after rumor each day in the shop. Some say yes, they can if this strike is deemed a certain type strike. Others say no they can't under any circumstance. Answers???

Anonymous 8:33 I sent my letter yesterday and start Tues AM (Have Dr. apt on Monday) You dont need Rocco or the Union to tell you that you can work. You need to not be affraid. Does $235 sound good, or does your regular paycheck sound good. I, for one, hate the big bad wolf on the outside of my door. You will need to make YOUR choice for yourself.

I have to agree with the union being gone by the end of the year. It happened beck in the 60's and I think it will happen again. If not gone, it will be a shadow of it's former self. More agency people, myself included. I think the people will see how much they have lost, how badly this has been handled. If this is "war" as the union has said, they didn't plan very well. What kind of general goes to war with just one plan? This was a disaster from the begining.

Im thinking about the last weeks, the hardest decision I ever made was made last week. No one in my family knew what I was going through. Self contiimplation, church on sunday, sitting down seaside, really thinking. Crying, asking my Higher Power, what is all this mess. Wifes medical problems, bills and the fate of the co. that has been nothing but good to me. I made THE hardest decision and that was to return to my livehood. The thing that was always a constant. unlike other things in life.

maybe the next time you vote it should be done BY a federal mediator. I know it will be done correctly and IN PEN

I have sent emails to him and other members of the board. Still waiting for a reply

All of you please remember- the hourly employees ( years ago ) wanted the union inside the shop. You also have the power to vote the union out of the shop.

I've been a Sikorsky worker for over 25 years - when I started my kid was 5 years old and my health insurance was 80/20, with a $200 deductable, but with NO co-pay for doctor visits or prescriptions - and I managed. Also, the insurance company only paid 80% of what they deemed "reasonable and customary" and I had to pay anything over that (plus the 20%) - and I managed, we all did. This plan wasn't so bad, we all just got soft.

Now that we have the co-pays and don't have to pay anything over what the insurance company doesn't allow, I'd take what was offered any day over losing what everyone's lost so far.

8:29 p.m. I'd bet Sikorsky is in a right-to-work state by 2008. Not saying that to rant against either side, but UTC is quite good at counter-punching, especially since they had 6 months notice of the strike coming. They are planning ahead no doubt; a good chunk of that is spent on how to avoid duplications of their labor unrest today.

Remember this- no one can do your jobs except you!
...except maybe Japan & Turkey, who build S-70s under license...or maybe the Czech Republic, who builds S-76...or maybe Keystone, who does final assembly on S-92...scratch that, they are here doing Black Hawk...

Seems to me Sikorsky is winning the strategy game. Step by step they are playing everything by the books.

1. The company did not lock out the union members therefore they cannot collect unemployment.
2. The company continues to provide fair offers to the membership. Send letters to employees imploring them to come back to work.
3. Obtained the backing of the corporation. They cannot and will not provide any other healthcare plan as all other divisions both salaried and hourly accept the current plan.
4. They convinced the customer; the FAA and OSHA they were prepared to continue to build. All three government agencies gave Sikorsky the authority to continue to manufacture and fly helicopters.
5. Planned outsource activities have been expedited.
6. Many cells are now at full strength through either redeployment or contractors. Contractors who are no doubt being paid less than the average union employee. Care to guess how much they have saved to date on pay and benefits they did not have to pay due to the strike?
7. Reorganization activities abound areas are being cleaned up, lounge chairs are being removed from the bathrooms and novels are being placed in boxes for employees to read at home instead of during working hours. (Bye-Bye bathroom book club.) (I mean no disrespect to the overwhelming population of hard working hourly employees, if the shoe fits where it.) Areas are being reorganized to improve efficiency.
8. Holding daily communication meetings to keep employees informed and confident of our future.
9. Ensuring the timely submission and issuance of merit increases as planned.

The union has seriously underestimated the situation. Their strategy to date:

1. Allow the union membership to be used by the media, who seek to improve their readership and ratings. Used by politicians to improve their popularity polls to garner more votes during the next election. Used by the national teamster’s organization who swooped in for a day and moved on.
2. Manipulate the membership by misrepresenting the first offer so, members would be left shell shocked not understanding why they had voted to strike. Manipulating the membership a second time by posting union stewards in the front rows to yell and scream not allowing for any real discussion of the offer by its members. Not allowing members to vote officially for fear they would disagree with the strike.
3. Misrepresent the facts it provided to the membership by telling them:
a. they could collect unemployment insurance
b. the strike was an unfair labor practice strike. It does not fit the criteria and will most likely be ruled an economic strike. Neither Sikorsky nor Local 1150 can make this decision, the national labor review board makes this determination and only after a hearing.
c. they cannot be permanently replaced. If the strike is deemed an economic strike the company can hire permanent replacement workers. If and when the strike is settled and employees are called back in the company can then lay off employees because a permanent worker is now in their place.
d. no-one else can replace them because they possess irreplaceable skills. The aerospace industry is still recovering; there are many aerospace workers in CT and the US who would be more than willing to work at Sikorsky. These people are now scanning the newspapers and internet waiting for the jobs to become available.
4. Attempt to scare the membership into submission by posting rosters of men and women who had the courage to come back to work. The union even posted the name of an individual who had to come back to work for reinstatement of medical insurance, so they could receive chemotherapy as they could not afford it without the insurance. Shame of the union for posting the individual’s name. Would they have someone die for their cause?
5. Lastly, allowed the company to see just how inefficient many of the internal processes were. In example why did we need five employees to move one part from the crib to the line? Why were we able to produce in one week on one ten hour shift more than we did with three shifts with overtime in one month? We can save how much by making the part outside; then why are we making this in-house?

Who will make the next move?

This comment is posted not to take sides, but instead to provide what the mood was like at Sikorsky this week. Hopefully, this we help those outside who want to make their own personal decisions with what little information they can obtain from looking through the fence. As stated many times before, you need to take this and all other blogs with a grain of salt. The best source would be a trusted family member working inside the plant.

That being said, the mood was a downer because salary and even management thought this would have been over this week. Most people have resided that the strike will go on for a couple more weeks. Two observations I made this week. The first is the amount of Meyer’s people and others doing a lot of work to the plant. I saw two over head cranes being moved out side and don’t know what part of the plant it came from. Also, on Friday morning I saw one of the two presses outside the clean room (next to restrooms) being ripped out and moved. I asked about it and someone said it was for the S76 nylon raps that they won’t need anymore. Someone also said most of the work being done was the same effort the company normally does during the 2 weeks of shutdown in the summer. I can’t tell if all the work being done is because of the strike. Second, I went and talked to people I know who were ME’s in the past and have since been on the out source group for many years. All four people I spoken with said the same thing, they were told to accelerate their efforts and were including things that once were core (hands off parts). The mood from most of the people I spoke with said the strike is over. It just a matter of time before the company is re-stocked with a new hourly workforce (with or without union members). Most people don’t care about the issues of the strike anymore and are loosing interest with the latest news (even I don’t check the blog anymore everyday). I can’t tell people what to do, I just try to call it as I see it and hope that will help someone made an educated decision based on facts (even if this isn’t taken seriously, a lest it would motivate someone to find them).

Where are all the real union people. Has anyone actually read the nlrb web site?

It's been 4 weeks without any change, I've supported the Union even though I did not vote for the strike.I need to go back to work and support my family.It's has been a never ending battle to fight the 80/20 the company proposed.It's the reality that everyone has to accept.I'd rather have a job paying me well for a honest day's work with a little more added medical cost to me than feel lost and depressed waiting for this union to make a decision that is my livelyhood.I'm done by next week.A total of 5 weeks that I never wanted in the first place.And you'll still call me a scab for the support I gave the Union for 5 weeks.It's time we get smart people!!!

Okay, 25 year employee here, worked the blade shop, now am in Shelton, many of you know me, enough said. Goz is my friend, and this is a good forum, as long as it is used right. Now for my feelings about this strike,I feel we lost the healt war, as Rocco stated at the meeting, what I dont get is he did a 360 at the end of his speech and still stated this strike is about healthcare? I say get us an offer of reasonability, any decent offer, and lets ratify it and get our jobs back before we dont have any jobs. If I was Rocco, instead of being in Philly, why isnt he sending this mediator proposal after proposal to get the company to counter? UTC is not stupid, they need us back, we make these helis, and they want us back, dont let anyone fool you, they need us to make their stocks rise, just as we need our jobs.Rocco also stated he wont hang us out to dry, well when is each individuals drying point, sooner or later? I myself am in a position I can wait awhile, others may not be, but even I want to get back to work, we have lost what we would of gained already, why keep taking a beating, when is enough enough? As for the salary/hourly debate, in my mind it is being blown out of proportion, as I always have gotten along with my salary friends and vice versa, end of debate, as we both need each other.George David, what should we care what he makes, do we stop going to see the Red Sox play when they all make 10 million a year? As for us out on the line, alot of the strikers are acting like this is a picnic or a party, and its NOT! Why yell at salary people, thats their job to head into work, no big deal there. Botom line here, if Rocco cant get the job done, and soon, then maybe we can oust this slate somehow, get people that can get the job done, no dis-respect to anyone, but so far, I dont see any great accomplishments, maybe Rocco will do something, and prove me wrong. I would much rather see this union ratify a vote and go back to work together, as I am afraid from what I see and hear, we shall go back in as a splintered, defeated piece of nothing left union, but I hope I am wrong! Lets go Rocco, e need a resolution, and fast, and maybe instead of the health care issue, how about job security in return, cuz we will need jobs to pay for the insurance increases.

Everyone keeps calling this a battle. It's not a battle, it's a protest. The noble thing for the union to do would have been to stage a symbolic strike by walking off the job for a day or two. Support for that type of action would have been universal: hourly, salary, politicians, general public, etc. Instead the union members are committing professional suicide. This martyrdom will not be rewarded with 70 virgins or 100% healthcare coverage, and unfortunately, Sikorsky will never be the same.

Now might be the right time for any one left to take advantage of the UTC Scholar program. Get a degree on the house and get away from this acrid atmosphere.

about a week ago someone on this site mention a website you could go to and check on the rites of the stikers .yes I am very nervous about my husband having a job to go back to ,when this is all said and done.If anyone knows the site I am talking about could you please list it here. thank you

Anybody else in the same boat as me? Totally tapped out and no one to turn to, (don't say the union - already tried, no luck.) The last few years have been tough because of health and other family issues so when we were told to prepare for a strike I sure tried to save some cash but didn't make out so good. So now I live like someone waiting for the end of the world, I can't sleep (see the time?) my stomach is in knots, and my family walks around the house not knowing whether to scream or cry.
I read that post by Strategist at 09:28 PM and he sounds pretty much on the level. I've tried to hold out as long as possible but for me it's time. Im so sorry but I have to go back to work. Please God help us all.

NLRB.GOV National Labor Relations Board

NRTW.ORG National Right to Work

Lots of Very good info

TEAMSTERS (IBT)
Teamster-Financed Study Claims Fed. Oversight No Longer Necessary
In an internal report costing more than $2 million, the law firm of Stier, Anderson & Malone claims that the Teamsters union is no longer dominated by organized crime racketeers, and that "the time is ripe" to end the federal govt's supervision of the union.

The Intl. Bhd. of Teamsters has functioned under the supervision of the U.S. Dist. Ct. for the Sou. Dist. of NY since 1989. The IBT hierarchy agreed to settle a complaint by fed. prosecutors that racketeers affiliated with the Cosa Nostra organized crime enterprise completely controlled the union. Under the consent decree, the Independent Review Board (IRB) was formed with broad powers of investigation over the Intl. and its affiliates, even to override internal decisions by the union hierarchy. The IRB continues its work under the supervision of U.S. Dist. Judge Loretta A. Preska (S.D.NY, G.H.W. Bush).

The report, commissioned by the Teamsters and released Oct. 3, argues that the govt. monitoring "allowed the International Brotherhood of Teamsters to change course," and that under IBT president James P. Hoffa's leadership, "the union has institutionalized its commitment to cultural reform through union-defined and enforced standards of conduct." The report's authors concede, ‘[w]hat constitutes reform, however, can be a contentious subject...As a political tactic, those out of power often describe themselves...as ‘reformers' regardless of whether any changes that would occur through their ascension to power could properly be termed ‘reforms.'" A recent case involving of Hoffa's closest allies illustrates that dilemma.

On May 30, the IRB barred William Hogan, Jr., Chicago's most powerful Teamster, from the union for life due to a plot to drive down wages and benefits for Las Vegas IBT Local 631 to help a Chicago-based firm in which his brother had a stake. Also banned for life was Dane Passo, a Chicago Teamster who became Hoffa's right-hand-man at IBT headquarters in Washington.

The IRB ruled that Hogan and Passo colluded with United Serv. Companies to have the firm's nonunion employees perform work at Las Vegas trade shows and conventions at less than half the hourly wage of Local 631 members, thus allowing other contractors to pay the same wages even to union workers. Hogan's brother, Michael, was United's vice-president. Reportedly, Hogan and Passo engineered Hoffa's firing of Local 631 officials who opposed the deal. Only when IRB began investigating did Hoffa stop Hogan and Passo's campaign. Hoffa responded to warnings about Passo's links to organized crime by one of the report's authors, Edwin Stier, by raising Passo's salary and keeping Passo as his "special representative" to the besieged Las Vegas Local.

"With the Independent Review Board still forced to take action against corruption in the Teamsters union, it is highly premature to end federal supervision of the union," said David Kendrick, Director of NLPC's Organized Labor Accountability Project. [The Teamsters: Perception & Reality. Stier, Anderson & Malone, LLC: The New Republic, 4/8/02]

Take this with a grain of salt.
If any of you were waiting to come back after listening to your union E-board, the time is now.
The company is holding all the cards and had a better contingancy plan than the union. Many jobs have gone and many more are slated to go. You may not recognize the factory when you return. Transformation has been going on since you all left.
It is time that all of you start to make your own decision as to returning and not let the mob mentality do it for you. It is getting late for all of the young people who will be the first to go so cross the line and save whatever you can of your jobs. YOUR FAMILY COMES FIRST.
To the strong union members stay out nobody really cares to see you again.
Work is flowing and the people doing your jobs are not tired of it because help is here and now we are teaching them to do your jobs.

Cross the line for yourselves and your family.

To: Anonymous on March 18, 2006 10:54 PM

http://www.nlrb.gov/nlrb/home/default.asp

Go to the questions section. Ask about economic strike. The time has come to make a move.

The wheels of justice (and politics) grind slowly. All opinions deserve an ear. However, the only opinion that will matter now is the NLRB's decision on the charges that have been filed. Ref. CONNPOST article
Gov. Rell and the rest of the Reps. of your state would do better by sitting on the NLRB's front stoop rather than writing letters to Sikorsky.

if the post is going to censor this blog then i'm going to save some money by canceling my subscription to the post or maybe i'll just switch to the new haven register they can't be trusted anymore.

I want to thank the union for the wall of shame. It is helping me make my choice to go back to work. As i see more people go back it makes me proud to see that these people are strong enough to make that important choice and i can do the same. I think the wall of shame is a Good thing keep it up! The more members i see cross is making my decision easier i to will cross at the end of march that is all i can give to this meaningless strike. The union will be weaker by april. big time.

Seems to me that you all are picketing in front of the wrong office!
Here are directions to the more appropriate 'establishment' to strike against:

From I-95 North
Take Exit 30
From exit ramp, merge onto Lordship Blvd.
At 5th light take a left onto Garfield Ave. (Duchess on corner)
Union Hall is on the right

From I-95 South
Take Exit 31
At the end of the ramp go straight through the stop sign
At the next stop sign take a left onto Honeyspot Rd.
Travel approximately 1/2 mile through 2 lights
Take a left onto Garfield Ave.
Union Hall is on the left

From Rt. 8
Take Route 8 South toward Bridgeport
Travel to the end of Route 8 and merge left onto I-95 North
Take Exit 30
From exit ramp, merge onto Lordship Blvd.
At 5th light take a left onto Garfield Ave. (Duchess on corner)
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Just an additional note, I sympathize with your concerns of increasing healthcare costs, I for one have been slammed personally with this massive concern, even with my wife working full time as a teacher, we still pay $400 / month for an HMO that has VERY limited resources.
I have to say, a 3 year contract with an end cost of $300 / month by year 3 ..... where can I sign up?!
Come on! Your jobs are disappearing right before your eyes, literally out the gates with the trucks carrying the sub assemblies, and with all the suits that have walked out with arm fulls of drawings, parts that you will no longer make!
You know how offload goes, once it out, it stays out, particularly once S/A recognizes the reduction in cost.
There isn't a particle of truth to any of the "they can't do our job" rhetoric.
No one is irreplacable.... no one.
It's being proven as we sit her and type our comments, cells are up and running, aircraft are moving slowly, but are moving.
Machine shop has made the most remarkable recovery I've ever seen! Some cells are marking improved output.. Improved!
Some are barely up and running, thanks to some of the sabotage, which did not go un-noticed by the way, pictures, documentation, notes found in locked drawers, its all been noted by the company.
Nevertheless, lets get back to work, get back to a community of working together, friends and coworkers making the best helicopters in the world, before that option no longer is one.
Good luck, hope to see you all very soon.

all these people keep bitching. You "bitchers" had the chance on wednesday to show how you felt at the meeting towards rocco and the union. not ONE tough guy stood up and said anything like I am reading here. Just like a bunch of pussies...grow up and take it like a man. I am

TO Strategist , while my opening blog was partly tongue in cheek your assessment is awesome. This comment is at the higher level ,known in the trade as a treaded discussion.

Bravo
JG

Some defintions to ponder:
Economic Strike
An economic strike is a work stoppage whose sole cause is a union’s unaccepted demands for higher wages, benefits or other improvements. During an economic strike, an employer can hire permanent replacements.

When the strike concludes, replacements may be retained in place of strikers. If replacements fill all jobs, strikers are placed on a preferential rehire list.

Unfair Labor Practice Strike
An unfair labor practice strike is a work stoppage wholly or partially caused by an employer’s violation of the National Labor Relations Act. An employer is not permitted to hire permanent replacements during a ULP strike. An economic strike is said to convert to a ULP strike if a ULP committed during the strike prolongs the stoppage.

When a union ends a ULP strike and makes an unconditional offer to return to work, the employer must reinstate strikers within five days (except for workers who committed serious misconduct during the strike). Replacements must be dismissed even if they were promised permanent employment. (These rules do not apply to workers replaced before the employer committed the violation that made the action a ULP strike.) If the employer fails to reinstate ULP strikers, the strikers are entitled to back pay from the date of their offer to return.

Jobs may be gone!!

The union is saying we are striking for " unfair labor practices". When the company replaces those who remain out and some kind of a court battle insues, The courts will find that NO unfair labor practice exists. Is a raise in co-pay for health insurance an unfair labor prctice? Please do a little research and you will find it is not. Mislead for sure by the Good Ol Boys again.

I am sorry your union was ill prepared, nor cares for the rank and file. The Teamsters needed a BIG SHOW now that they left the AFL/CIO.

You are the choosen pawns. UTC offered them them what the considered a policial plank to have a strike.

Think about it. YOur not stirking for unsafe work condidtions, better pay, more vacation time or even maternaty leave etc.... The Plank is health care insurance.

Gee now the politicians can come in for their photo ops, the National Union can come in for a photo op, while you are stuck on the picket line getting shot at ($$$$ wise), everyone benefit except the pawn, i.e. you the grunts in the line.

YOu all fail to see that 85% of the working stiffs, i.e. hourly workforce of CT doesn't really support you. How can they, they make less than half of what you get paid, and pay the same 80/20 for insurance and don;t have the other benefits UTC offers.

The only thing your fight is doing is making publicity for the Union and politicians. Please remember that when election time comes around and the union asks you to vote for so and so and to donate to their campaign, and as they make contributions to the election funds of people you would never support with your money.

Well don't worry about that last part much if your unemployed or working a job that pays less than half of what was your current pay and paying 80/20 you will not have any cash or spare time to to support these candidates come election time, you will be too busy working 2 jobs just to keep the lights on.

If Sikorsky starts interviews for replacement workers and hiring even if it is just to sweep shavings from the shop floor quess what

I WILL BE FIRST IN LINE!! and I wil be gratefull for a above standard wage and benefit package.

WECLOME TO THE REAL WORLD SIKORSKY UNION WORKERS

2:30 am Good for you! When I made MY choice to go back, The strike was over. I have lost 10 pounds over the last four weeks due to the exact same stress you experience. I felt beaten from the start of this stike but now feel freed from the grips of the Union. Few people will say a thing to you as what ammo do they have? All credibility is gone and now we the non-union hourlys have the ability to push the union right out the door.

I am sorry I have to agree with Laobor office strikers are not entitled unemployment insurance when you go out on a strike when the company is offering you work.

If there is a lockout and the company refuses to offer any new plans then I can see it.

But UTC did offer you what 3 offers since the first? They have not refused you work, they have not cut your pay if you go to work.

YOur not entitled to Unemployment pay.

Many forget that insurance, tutions payouts, life insurance, bonuses, stock options and even retirement are OPTIONAL on the part of any employer.

You have more than most of CT's workforce your being foolish

any word on any new proposals

I, too, am going to cancel my subscription. I have tried posting several times, nothing abusive, and my comments never seem to show up.

And as far as following a blog, I am switching to http://sikorskystrike.blogspot.com/.

I just read through an article I would have normally bypassed in the latest Reader's Digest, because it hits so close to home relating to this strike. It is called "I can't afford to get sick", and starts on page 91, runs through page 103.

I would really recommend everyone here read it if you can. There are a lot of tidbits of info that show both "sides" of this healthcare issue (employee and employer). The thing to realize is that they are both actually in the same boat, they aren't really on different sides at all. I'm not going to go on and on about the article, go read it for yourself.

I will mention two things it talks about though, just so people can get an idea;

1) How many workers have insurance plans, yet are under-insured. The plans they have don't cover nearly what they thought it did.
2) Just how massive the costs are to companies, including large ones. The example given is GM, where last year they paid out $5.4 Billion in health care costs (up $200 million from the previous year) for 150,000 employees. This accounts for about $1,500 for the cost of each vehicle.

Just some food for thought there... go read the article, its worth it.

Latest update from Teamster's Website:

Day 28 of the strike.

RUMORS ARE FLYING THAT THE COMPANY WILL ENGAGE IN ANOTHER SCARE TACTIC VERY SOON. THIS RUMOR SAYS THAT THE COMPANY WILL SEND THREATENING LETTERS TELLING MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE PERMANENTLY REPLACING YOU AS OF MONDAY.

YOU ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE LAW. THIS IS AN UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE STRIKE AND YOU CANNOT BE PERMANENTLY REPLACED. THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT. THE ACT STATES:

"EMPLOYEES WHO STRIKE TO PROTEST AN UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE COMMITTED BY THEIR EMPLOYER CAN NEITHER BE DISCHARGED NOR PERMANENTLY REPLACED. WHEN THE STRIKE ENDS, UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE STRIKERS, ABSENT SERIOUS MISCONDUCT ON THEIR PART, ARE ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR JOBS BACK EVEN IF EMPLOYEES HIRED TO DO THEIR WORK HAVE TO BE DISCHARGED."

STAY STRONG, STAY UNITED... TOGETHER WE CANNOT LOSE!

What a joke! Have they actually looked up the definition of an unfair labor practice strike? Sounds to me like this is more of an economic strike as the union did not want to accept the benefits offered by SIK. When the NLRB concludes this is so, the entire hourly work force can be replaced permanently...and the union claims not to be scared?!?

As posted by Anon 9:15AM:
Economic Strike
An economic strike is a work stoppage whose sole cause is a union’s unaccepted demands for higher wages, benefits or other improvements. During an economic strike, an employer can hire permanent replacements.

When the strike concludes, replacements may be retained in place of strikers. If replacements fill all jobs, strikers are placed on a preferential rehire list.

Unfair Labor Practice Strike
An unfair labor practice strike is a work stoppage wholly or partially caused by an employer’s violation of the National Labor Relations Act. An employer is not permitted to hire permanent replacements during a ULP strike. An economic strike is said to convert to a ULP strike if a ULP committed during the strike prolongs the stoppage.

My husband who crossed the line is very happy he did. It doesn't matter to him what anyone else thinks except his family. (wife & children). We are very proud of him!!! He's been with the company for a very long time. We talked about this situation everyday. He has stated that he has NEVER seen anything like this before inside the company. Everything has changed dramatically!Especially if the SIK goes to the merit system. All the better for him. He went to the union once in 30 yrs. and, they metaphorically slapped him in the face! Since then he would not support the union until he had no choice but to join the agency. What a waste of money if you ask us! Now, he is sad for one thing.......to see alot of his co-workers won't be coming back. SIK was very patient so far through this whole thing. Now, time is up. In the next couple of weeks is going to be a real blow to the union members who think they still have job security. You people have been informed of this for weeks now. TIME to go back. For alot of you, it's already to late. Those of you who sabatoged the parts and ect.......you know who you are....they caught you, and kiss your jobs goodbye! Have fun in jail....for a FACT,that is where you are going. FOOLISH!!! For the rest of you....our prayers are with you.

I consider many of you out on the line striking very good friends and I truly wish things were different. I was once an hourly union worker myself and I now have a salary position. There is no salary vs hourly in this for me. You won't see me yelling and swearing at you. Instead I pray for you guys. I can not imagine what it must be like for you right now but I do know many jobs are now gone forever. I have no reason to lie to you. I am writing this as a friend who cares.

Please check out the NLRB website and educate yourselves and realize this is not an unfair labor strike it is an economic strike. Your union is not doing right by you. When this is over many of you will be returning to pink slips instead of jobs. You've lost enough already.

Those of you intending on returning to work take note!
You that normally perform an honest's days work should have no problems. You will also have the power to make improvements on your jobs - many changes have already been made and better practices have been found. That's why you've read about the water test going from 400 hr to 40 hr, in part because the caulking is being done correctly the first time around, no mess left to be caught and fixed downstream.
For those of you that have habitually played the system, there are no stewards to call to file a greivence because you were caught out of your area walking around at leisure, taking long multiple breaks, or, after getting caught on your cell phone multiple times, being told to get back on your job and do a reasonable day's work.
"The times they are a changin'"

THANKS SPECTATOR. ENG. AND STRATEGIST.AMOUNG OTHERS.I THINK YOU'VE CLEARLY THOUGHT ABOUT AND IDENTIFIED MANY OF OUR CONCERNS. I KNOW THAT,WHEN LOOKING BACK, MANY OF US WOULD RECANT OUR VOTES. THE STRATEGY OF UTC AND SIK SEEMS CLEARER NOW, AND THE UNION ALSO FELL FOR IT. WE, WHO AGONIZE OVER THIS, MUST REALIZE WE'VE BEEN PLAYED(LIKE A FIDDLE), AND NOW WE ARE BEING BEATEN((LIKE A DRUM )(SORRY,I COULD'NT RESIST).MOST OF US SPEND MORE TIME PLANNING A MEAL THEN WE WERE GIVEN TO DECIDE ON A CONTRACT THAT WOULD EFFECT THE NEXT THREE YEARS OF OUR LIVES. WHEN THE "LAST AND BEST" CONTRACT OFFER WAS PRESENTED TO THE UNION, THEY HAD LESS THAN 24 HOURS TO PREPARE AND PRESENT IT TO THE MEMBERSHIP. WE,LEGALLY HAVE MORE TIME TO CONSIDER WEATHER OR NOT WE KEEP A TOASTER PURCHASED AT K-MART THAN WE HAD TO THINK ABOUT THE CONTRACT. PREVIOUSLY, RUMORS WERE THE ONLY THING WE ALL HAD TO GO ON. SOME WERE MORE SCARRY THEN OTHERS. IF THE COMPANY WERE MORE FORTHRIGHT AND IF THE UNION WERE MORE SUAVE WE WOULD ALL BE WORKING NOW. SIK IS DOING SOME MUCH NEEDED HOUSE CLEANING, ASSESSMENT AND RE-ORGANIZING. I THINK THAT WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG.(DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THE BLACKED OUT CALENDAR?)THE UNION COULDN'T BE LEFT WITH EGG ON ITS FACE, HAVING MAXIMIZED THE THE HEALTH CARE ISSUE FOR SIX MONTHS,(NONE OF WHICH WAS PROPERLY REPRESENTED TO THE MEMBERSHIP AS A DEAL BREAKER). NOW WHAT? THE QUESTION WEV'E BEEN ASKING ALL ALONG. SIK MADE US ALL LOOK LIKE FOOLS BY PUBLICISING THEIR SECOND CONTRACT AND IMPLORING US TO GET BACK TO WORK....PUBLICLY...WE ALL KNOW IT WAS A SHAM AND A SLAP IN THE FACE...YET THEY GET TO LOOK GOOD...AND PRATERNAL. THE PUBLIC THINKS WE'RE NUTS. THEY,AND WE,KNOW WE CAN'T CHANGE HEALTH CARE HERE...TODAY... AND SO DO THE POLITICIANS. AGAIN,NOW WHAT? IF THERE WERE A REVOTE ON THE ORIGIONAL CONTRACT AND SOME HONEST SOUL SEARCHING I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BOTH BY THE MEMBERSHIP AND(RELUCTANTLY) BY THE UNION. INSTEAD SOME ARE (RELUCTANTLY...AGAIN)SNEAKING THRU THE BACK DOOR, WHEN WE SHOULD ALL BE WALKING IN TOGETHER THRU THE FRONT. I FEEL NO ANNIMOSITY TOWARD SALERY OR "SCAB". WE ARE ALL THE PAWNS IN THIS GAME, LETS NOT LOSE OUR HUMANITY. THANKS FOR LETTING ME INPUT.

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