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Shame on you Stratford residents, you’ve been getting a free ride off Sikorsky (now the largest tax payer) for the last 50 something years. What have you ever provided to Sikorsky, it’s been just recently you’ve been responding to emergency calls inside the plant (another form of outsourcing our Fire Dept). Anyway, for once in forty years, you’re having to provide Sikorsky with service; too dam bad, the free ride off Sikorsky is over.

To Roco & Cronies,
When are you going to wake up UTC how mant billion 1150 how many thousand? while you collect a check and benefits you have 3600 men and women in the elements on a stripend of $232.00 which taxes and of course union dues must come out. Give up dummies the UTC has I repeat has broke the union Gentleman Jimmy Hoffa Jr ame in one day along with others OH BOY what did that do where are they today? Remember dummy to are only affiliates you are not real TEAMSTERS so get off your high horse and let the people go back to work.
Roco you screwed your people. Now make amends get off your dead A&& and wake up you lost!

It is sad the way some strikers on the picket line scream obscenities such as "slut," "whore," etc. to the women who cross the line as they enter and leave the plant each day. Why do some people insist on throwing sexuality into the mix?

Why can't the women just be plain old "asshole" or "scab" like the men who cross? Here's why: MOST MEN, ESPECIALLY HARDLINE UNION TYPES, FEEL THREATENED BY WOMEN WHO ARE THEIR SUPERIORS, MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THEY DO, HAVE MORE EDUCATION, ETC.

According to Webster's, a whore is a woman who engages in sexual acts for money. Obviously, the women who are going to work each day at Sikorsky are not prostitutes, so why would you call them whores? A slut is defined as a promiscuous woman. Do any of the strikers know any of the salaried females whom they called "slut" or "whore" well enough to know what they do in their personal time or whether or not they engage in promiscuous behavior? And who gets to determine what behavior is promiscuous and what behavior is not?

I'm sure there are plenty of promiscuous men out there, too. Why do they not get called the male equivalent of these names when crossing the picket line? Is it because it's okay for men to be promiscuous, but not women? Or is it because women, the supposedly "weaker sex," are easier targets and would feel more threatened by this language?

Why does this double standard exist? I personally think it is because the ones on the picket line using this language are so insecure in their own masculinity that they feel the need to bully "helpless" females. Well, guess what? Females are not, by nature, helpless. They are just as strong as, if not stronger than, their male counterparts. After all, they have to put up with BS from YOU.

Keep in mind that calling a female salaried employee going in to work a slut or a whore does not make you a man or positively impact your "manly" image. It just makes you a pathetic asshole.

IMPORTANT FACTS TO REMEMBER:

1) Rocco doesn't decide if this is an economic strike or a strike against unfair labor practices. Only the NLRB can make that determination. An economic strike is one for better wages, benefits, etc. That seems to fit this situation. An unfair labor practice strike would indicate that the company has committed an unfair labor practice. This has not been proven in the court of public opinion, but again, it is for the NLRB - NOT the union - to decide.

2) A company does have rights during a strike. They can hire replacement workers. Period. What decides whether or not the replacement workers can go from temporary to permanent is the NLRB. If they rule this an economic strike, permanent replacements can be hired. They do have to keep you on the payroll and recall you if a job opening becomes available, but they don't have to ensure a job opening ever does become available. If the NLRB rules that Sikorsky has committed an unfair labor practice, then the strikers must be given the opportunity to return to their jobs.

3) A privately-owned company certainly has every right to manage its own business affairs without interference from a union, politicians or anyone else, for that matter. Sikorsky is free to pack up and leave, if they so choose. The economic benefit of relocating to a right-to-work state would far surpass the cost of relocation. Even if there are environmental concerns to consider.

Those three items you can verify at the website for the NLRB. Now, for a few personal observations... these may or may not be verifiable, but this is what I have been told or observed myself.

A) The discussion last night about time trials is correct. Cycle time studies are being performed and have been since day one of the strike. Management is learning how long it really does take to perform certain tasks and the new times are the benchmark that you will have to perform to if you are asked back.

B) The contracts are NOT going to get any better, according to Beth Amato. Each one will offer you slightly less than the last one. They are not going to reward you for striking against them. They will, however, wait you out until you are so weak that you agree to come back on their terms. And a multi-billion dollar company obviously has more staying power than a few thousand union members.

C) As to whether or not work is actually getting done on the inside, the quick answer is YES. Now, some shops have been disassembled and relocated already and more will be in the near future. Much work has been outsourced. Some non-critical functions are taking a backseat to other tasks that are more time-sensitive. It just really depends on what jobs you are talking about. Someone in payroll may, for example, see a decrease in the amount of work being done in their department. In AFO, as an example, someone may see quite a lot being done. It just depends on where you work. Many jobs are already gone, more will be eliminated, still more will be relocated.

D) You can get as angry and hostile as you want to at the messengers trying to bring you accurate reports as to what is happening inside the plant or within company management, but killing the messenger doesn't kill the message. You can disagree with it, deny it and take offense at it all you want. It is still happening.

Happy St. Pat's and good luck to all.

Literal ass-kissing, as in touching one's lips to another person's ass, could be considered a sexual act, depending upon the context. However, figurative ass-kissing, which is I'm sure what 6:56 is talking about, is not a sexual act so much as it is a good career move. Ever hear the expression YOU CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY THAN YOU DO WITH VINEGAR? Well, treating people with respect, which you Teamsters thugs call "asskissing," is not a bad thing. Maybe if you tried being nice once in a while, you would still be EMPLOYED!

I can't wait for the sexual harassment charges to pile up when this strike is over. I'll bet there are at least a dozen obscene jerks who will be told their old jobs are not available due to their strike activity. A nice class action civil lawsuit against the union and its members would nicely frame the $6000 each member has lost in wages.

The police may be turning a blind eye to the breach of peace and verbal threatening going on, but the company won't stand for it.

Every day you have to look a little bit harder to find news about the strike. You guys are falling off the public's radar screen, and that's not going to help you.

Of course, neither is the fact that your jobs are disappearing, that the company is quickly discovering exactly how lazy and uncooperative you have been over the years, and that you have completely alienated your co-workers.

But other than that, I think you're doing well.

On the union website:
"Members who are Milford residents and have children in the public school system may qualify for free or reduced cost lunches while on strike. Members should contact the school through the following link. MILFORD FOOD SERVICES . We are receiving reports from other towns that they are doing the same thing. All members should contact their child's school and inquire about free lunches. "

Now you're sucking off every resource that was meant for those who really need it! I bet your kids must really feel great about that! The social stigma that you're applying to your kids because of your egos. Why not put them on the little yellow bus while you're at it.

True, 7:17. I didn't see a single thing about the strike in today's CT Post. I may have missed it, though. I guess it's possible that a couple of the pages stuck together.

And I wouldn't worry about the outsourcing, relocating, etc. They wouldn't say they're cutting jobs if they really aren't. No, they are just trying to scare you. I am 100% sure that Sikorsky management is just having it's 6000 salaried employees, plus these replacement workers and line crossers, sit around all day pining for you and trading fond memories of when the hourly guys still worked there. They really do miss you, you know.

And do thousands of dollars in lost pay more than make up for the few extra bucks you would have had to kick in on the 80/20? SURE THEY DO! You are doing the right thing... keep fighting this fight, it's more important than your job security and the health and wellbeing of your family. Hey, someone has to take a stand, right? I'm sure if 3600 hourly employees in Stratford, CT voluntarily give up their jobs and cushy lifestyle for the sake of saving health care in this nation, you will make it happen.

Last I heard, DC was all abuzz with politicians stepping all over each other to make serious health care reforms, now that the mighty, mighty Teamsters have made them aware of this problem.

Lets stop this maddness! Get together at big y March27th. Join forces 1000 stong minded union members go back on the same day. We could all be back to work as a happy team! without being called a scab,because we would be the winners.Join me at noon.

To Women In Minority
Yes, we are out here too. Standing up for something we believe in. Health Care. The company claims health care costs are going up. Yes we know that, but you'd think a company that owns the health care provider they offer, could give us a better deal? Insurance companies are in business to make money, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are making a profit or kick back from our insurance.
As for women "getting paid less , because they have cleaner jobs" I've worked for SAC for 25 years right beside male co workers doing the same jobs. So if I was paid less because I am a woman I'd go right to my union. That's why I belong.
I once saw a sticker on a tool box that said,
" A WOMANS PLACE IS IN HER UNION"

Perhaps being in denial about the potential for lost jobs is doing a serious disservice to the striking workers. How about coming up with a plan to save those jobs or to at least find you all other employment when this is over.

If your place is in your union, then who is raising your kids? Oh, that's right... SOCIETY. You know, the same SOCIETY that owes you all a free freaking ride!

You guys are seriously losing press coverage. It was pretty much guaranteed the first month, but people are starting to not care anymore about your so-called "cause." A month from now, no one will even notice.

First and most important how long are you going to be able to pay your bills and support your family?
Second, just take a look around Connecticut, how many manufacturing plants no longer are here. That being said there are many and I repeat many people that would love to work for Sikorsky with the benefits they are currently offering. Didn’t you just have a job fair to fill 200 positions in which 5,000 applicants showed up? What does that tell you, you can be replaced? and I hope one day you are not looking or driving by the plant and telling your kids Daddy or Mommy USED to work there.
There were many employees that did not vote the contract down in the first place, so why wouldn’t all of you go back to work. If all the employees that voted to accept the contract go back to work at least you would have a job and hopefully break up the union. So not only will you get your raise but you will also save the $58 a month in union dues.
About the outsourcing, take it from someone that has been through this. Once jobs go outside of your plant, they will never be back. Now how many employees will be laid off? Think about there are many of you already that won’t even have jobs when you finally decide what to do. Do your self a favor start looking at the classified ads and see for your self what type of jobs are left in Connecticut and how much are they paying. Keep in mind manufacturing in Connecticut is dead, outsourced, moved down south where labor is cheaper. Just stop to think do you want to work harder for less money? Let’s face it Sikorsky pays everyone a great salary, great overtime where are you going to find even something comparable to your current salary never mind after the increase they are offering.
I have been through that and I just don’t want to see you in that position where you would have to change your standard of living because you had a great job and you gave it up.
Do yourself and your family a big favor and cross the line and go back to work the sooner the better or you may not have a job. You and only you can make the best decision for your family.
I have no stake in this, but from someone that had over 25 years with a company which closed down, moved down south and outsourced many products it is very hard to get a job in Connecticut in the manufacturing business due to all the organizations that have already left Connecticut or just cut back.

To all union members who think they are winning a fight on Health care! open your ears and eyes. Your Master Rocco told you at the union meeting. You have to accept 80/20 Did anyone listen to what he said????? Why do you look at him like a god? He is a fool that is taking us all down with him. I for one have lost enough money to have paid for my health care for 3 years. Yes the sikorsky guards took the same plan that we keep rejecting!!!!! they look at how stupid we are everyday and did not want to follow our footsteps. Rocco is taking us for a long lost ride.

THE SIKORSKY GUARDS ACCEPT SAME MEDICAL PACKAGE THAT WE KEEP REJECTING!!!!!!!! THIS IS A LOSING BATTLE THAT CANNOT BE WON!!!ROCCA SAID SO.

Wait a minute...

Are you guys striking because of an unfair labor practice or are you guys striking for health care?

to 7:49
"I" raised my kid, by myself and worked full time.
My kid had a hot meal every night, clean clothes to wear and never did without. It's the quality of time you spend with your children, not quanity. I never got a hand out from SOCIETY!
I guess your wife is one of the stay home wives, spending all your hard earned money and doing the mail man!

Okay, I am asking again for some enlightenment. Is this strike over the health care plan or are you striking because Sikorsky has committed an unfair labor practice? Can anyone clue me in?

To Huh?...

I don't think they even know why they are striking. They say they are striking for better health care, which would make this an economic strike. But then they turn around and say this isn't an economic strike, but one for unfair labor practices. As is typical of unions in general and the Teamsters in particular, they don't really care about any "cause." They will call it whatever will get them the most $$$.

8:30
I was married when my kid was concieved and born, but things didn't work out. That doesn't make anyone a slut.
Just proves what an a-hole you are!
I worked hard to provide a good home and life for my kid and have been told more times than I can count what a good Mom I am. I'm proud of who I am and what I've accomplished in life. That's all I'm gonna say on this subject and to you. I'm not going to debait with you here, this forum wasn't set up for male chauvinist like you.

Can any striker please tell me why you are striking? Or are there any hourly employees on here at the moment? I won't bother the rest of you by asking again if I don't get an answer... I'll just come back later when there are more hourly people on here who might be able to answer my question. Thanks!

Don't have to worry about Teamsters 1150 members not wearing green today... they are probably green with envy that each week the same amount they lose in lost wages can be found in their supervisors' paychecks as extra pay for overtime. Happy St. Patrick's Day!

As I read these post I see more and more desperate HR's here trying to save their jobs. If they can't convince enough union members to cross the line its their jobs that will be on the line. The post that say "B) The contracts are NOT going to get any better, according to Beth Amato." That just suggest
HR is here because would discuss this with the average salary person to start with. This whole episode is an embarrassment to her and all of UTC that the union rejected their contract offer. They know they have to fix this and do it without losing face and their not sure where to go just yet,but I will say this Rocco has given them the opportunity fix now.

testing

I have gotten thru the gauntlet.

You guys must really be hurting for cash now!!!!!!

Hope it lasts another 26 days

OOPS

HR is here because wouldn't discuss this with the
average salary person to start with.

To 8:48... can you tell me if this is a strike against healthcare or for unfair labor practices?

Also to 8:48: Each evening management gives a synopsis of the day's events to supervision. Beth Amato did fill them in one day this week, I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, that the second offer had been withdrawn and that, although they have no plans to make a third offer at this time, any future offer would include slightly less than the first and second offers did. You don't have to believe this if you don't want to, that's fine. I understand you all probably don't have a clue who or what to believe at this point, but it may not pay to dismiss this statement out of hand. According to my spouse, this is what was passed at that meeting.

It is an unfair labor practices because they changed our health care with out negotiating it.

"3) A privately-owned company certainly has every right to manage its own business affairs without interference from a union, politicians or anyone else, for that matter. Sikorsky is free to pack up and leave, if they so choose. The economic benefit of relocating to a right-to-work state would far surpass the cost of relocation. Even if there are environmental concerns to consider."

And remember, Kia was given $250 million in incentives to add a palnt w/1,500 auto jobs in Georgia. SAC would probably add 2,500 minimum (I'm negating some of 3,600 due to eff gains.)

If 1,500 warrants $250 mill, 2,500 means UTC hears "Ca-Ching"!

Oh, yes, they did negotiate it. They spent several months negotiating it. Just because they didn't change their position on it doesn't make them guilty of an unfair labor practice. If that were true, then the same could be said of the union. The would be guilty of an unfair labor practice for refusing to accept the plan.

Also, they agreed to postpone implementation for one year and restructured the bonus and annual increases to help offset the initial burden. I just don't see how they are guilty of an unfair labor practice.

If I am wrong, then I'll eat my hat, but I just don't see how this is anything but an economic strike.

Basso take the dress off and stop lying to everyone here noone believes what your telling them look at the scab list you guys thought there wougld be over a thousand by now thats why your running scared.

"It is an unfair labor practices because they changed our health care with out negotiating it."

"Unfair labor practice" isn't an opinion; its defined by the NLRB, and changing it after a contract concludes doesn't meet their definition.

Next!

They changed the plan we already negotiated and unilaterly imposed their new plan thats not negotiating thats an UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE.

I am not a Sikorsky employee, or a paid blogger. I have two family members in and two out. First let me reiterate what someone said earlier. I know first hand that a lot of work is being done by the supervisors, and replacement workers. Just like you were trained, so are these people. OJT (on the job training), remember? And next week, they will be hiring PerMANENT replacement workers. Even if you are lucky to get back in, they will not take ALL of you back. What better way to get rid of the dead weight? My advice to you, especially if you're a newer employee, do what you have to do cause you're gonna get laid off anyway.

What will the union do for you then? What is the union doing for you now? They didn't get you unemployment compensation because they didn't return the phone calls to the State. Guess they thought you could do wihout the money! Speaking of which, how much money does the union have left to continue to pay your weekly $232 (heard the pot is dwindling)? And once that runs out, what will you do? Think Rocco will front you some?

Think of all those that worked for Stop & Shop (who had teamsters behind them) bet they'd like a job, and now Winchester going out of business, bet they'd like a job too, with benefits!

What will your next offer be? IF THERE IS ONE???

80/20, everyone is saying they know they have to take it, so why not go back to work? Is trying to make a point reason enough to sacrifice jobs and families livelihood????

I for one like what I have, and want to keep it. Is this what you have worked sooo hard to save for, only to use it just to prove a point? How will you ever make up the money already lost and trying to play catch up? Those of you looking towards an early retirement will now have to work a few more years, IF you can even get a decent enough job. Those saving to buy a house, will now have to dream a little longer.....

JUST TO PROVE A POINT........

They changed the plan we already negotiated and unilaterly imposed their new plan thats not negotiating thats an UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE.

No, it is NOT an unfair labor practice. Bargaining in good faith, as the law reads, requires nothing more legally than showing up for negotiations and passing offers back and forth. It is extremely hard to prove that a company is not bargaining in good faith, especially when they have made concessions as Sikorsky has by changing the bonus/increases to coincide with the implementation of the plan and also in holding off on implementing the plan. Regardless of what you may or may not have negotiated, if no contract was signed, then it just doesn't matter. You may think it is unfair, but what is really unfair to you is not the company's offer, but the inability of your union to adequately and successfully represent you.

The duties of collective bargaining per the NLRB... taken straight from their website. Take special note of the last sentence.

Section 8(d) requires an employer and the representative of its employees to meet at reasonable times, to confer in good faith about certain matters, and to put into writing any agreement reached if requested by either party. The parties must confer in good faith with respect to wages, hours, and other terms or conditions of employment, the negotiation of an agreement, or any question arising under an agreement.

Bargaining obligations are imposed equally on the employer and the representative of its employees. It is an unfair labor practice for either party to refuse to bargain collectively with the other. The obligation does not, however, compel either party to agree to a proposal by the other, nor does it require either party to make a concession to the other.

I have been reading this blog now for awhile, it is amazing to me how many guys just don't get it. I worked as an hourly employee till I was laid off, so I know what goes on there. The bottom line is Rocco will have a job and the end of this either with 1150 or some other part of the Union, can the hourly guys say the same? Rocco is having no problems paying his bills, can you guys say the same? If Rocco gets sick or his family he has insurance, you guys don't. Wake up people, you have to take care of you and your families, Rocco won't nor will Hoffa. And one other thing, whatever "man" likes to call woman "whores, bitches" as they go into their jobs isn't much of man at all. Real tough guys huh?

GO back to your jobs, demand a vote before you guys will be asking me if I want coke with my fries!

Please! Meet at big y March 27th. We can all cross together! power in numbers! I know that a lot of members want to go back but fear the union. If we go back with a large number we will win! Lets Meet at noon.

Well when the company does what it did the only thing that the union has is the ability to withold its labor. The company can hire replacement workers but they can't be permanent and the company truly has no one to train that many workers at one time. I can imagine the reworks and scraps your going to have in a very short time. The cost to fix our health care would be cheap compared to all the crap you will have soon.

ARE THERE ANY TALKS SCHEDULED BY THE MEDIATOR AND THE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED? WHEN?

I would like to see both the company and the union agree to binding arbitration. Then lets see what a third party would say to this.

The company can, has and will continue to hire replacement workers. Whether or not they can KEEP these replacement workers depends upon whether or not this is determined by the NLRB to be an economic strike or an ULP strike. The NLRB can't rule if no charges have been filed, so it would be really interesting to see if the union has actually filed a charge. As far as I know, Sikorsky has not acknowledged receipt of a complaint, which I imagine it would do in a press release explaining its side. I don't think the union has bothered to file a complaint with the NLRB.

OH YEAH FOR SURE YOUR NOT HR HAHAHA

Rocco hasn't made any formal charges because he knows they won't stick. Remember UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION?!

The NLRB does a weekly summary on their website. The most recent Sikorsky item there took place in 2004.

Rocco never said anyone on strike could collect unemployment compensation. That was a big leap that some thought that maybe they could collect based on the fact that the company turned hourly workers away the first week of the strike.

The NLRB does a weekly summary on their website. The most recent Sikorsky item there took place in 2004.

Basso go look at your mail in box.

Opinions of an outsider:

I have to tell you guys something. At the beginning of this strike, I was feeling a lot of sympathy for you guys (the strikers). As time goes on, I am losing sympathy as I suspect most of the public is. More of my humble opinions:

1). The signing bonus: Wasn't the signing bonus offered as an incentive for you to accepted the original contract and not strike? If so, why the heck are you guys so surprised that it shrunk by $500 on the second offer. In my opinion, you guys don't deserve the signing bonus at all any more because you didn't accept the original agreement. Not feeling bad for you on this issue at all. Period.

2). Unfair Labor Practice: Where is the unfair labor practice? What makes you guys think that the fact that Sikorsky won't give you everything you want translates into an unfair labor practice? They don't need to negotiate with you. Period. You guys all make a more than fair living and work in better conditions than most. What is so darn unfair about the labor practices at Sikorsky? Again, not feeling bad for you guys at all on this issue. It makes you guys look foolish and childish. Pretty soon my 9 year old son will be striking my household claiming unfair parenting practices because I won't let him play video games as much as he wants to.

80/20 Health Care: Another point where its hard to feel sorry for you guys. I've spoken to several friend who work for Helicopter Support. They are on the 80/20 plan that's so unacceptable to you. Guess what, your plan smokes the health plan I have, and I'm pretty happy with the plan I have. Apparently you guys deserve more healthcare than the rest of us American workers.

My Point: You guys are losing the sympathy of the public. In my opinion, you guys should have licked your wounds, accepted the second offer and went back to work. With every passing day you are losing strength. Sympathy is dwindling, members are crossing the line, the company is learning how to live without you, jobs are being outsourced, and you are losing big money (just wait until next year when you have to make us the income taxes on your strike pay).

Wake up guys and stop following the Teamsters to your grave. For them this is an ego battle. It would be better for them to watch you lose your job than it would be for them to eat crow in front of the rest of the countries Teamsters. I'm not telling you to cross the line, I'm telling you to call for a vote and do whats sensible.

It is an unfair labor practices because they changed our health care with out negotiating it.
They changed the plan we already negotiated and unilaterly imposed their new plan thats not negotiating thats an UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE.

Rocco did what we told him to do on our behalf as our representative. Thinking that the Union members would just swallow a HUGE downgrade in coverage at three times the cost (contribution) and much higher costs for visits and procedures along with a prescription plan that altogether cancels out all raises in a time when our company is deeply in the black is just not realistic. The aftermath has shown us that like it or not the 80/20 is a mandatory part of the contract. We've had time to come to grips with that, but want to explore the possibility of at least easing some of the financial (look at where it puts us in the long term) burden. We are trying to survive (as everyone is) in a financial climate that has us slowly getting pushed further and further down the financial ladder instead of getting a little bit further up in compensation. With few exceptions the members I know are good people that love their job and their company. They are solid workers whose biggest complaint is that there aren't enough parts to keep up with their abilities and that's a fact. We LIKE to work hard, but have found that with the current implementation of the new systems and all the oursourced items the factory CAN'T keep up with US. That is fact, not fiction. Are there other areas where it is different? Most likely, but I know that ALL of my "upstream" areas, ones that feed the work to us, are in the same boat.My foreman is not just a good foreman, but a good man. He's VERY capable and knows more about the product than most realize. Leadman (Union) has more knowledge about the product and general mechanics than I'll ever know and I'm no pushover. The people I work with are good to excellent workers and appreciate their employment and I don't hear any "I hate this place" talk EVER. We are, to the man (and one woman I might add that is another hard worker) a very efficient team. The engineers that have worked with us are sincere in their attempts to resolve problems we have, though in the "system" of this huge machine it takes more time than it should. There is a lot of joking with each other and with salary, who have no apparent problem joking back. Smiling is common. Complaints (other than frustrating parts shortages) are rare. Dissention isn't common at all. It's not heaven, but it's a good place to work. When the company needs what we produce we make it happen without fail. Without going into specifics, we pushed HARD to meet some outrageous goals and were able to exceed the target. We are looking forward to the day when we can again get back to what we all do best - work well, live well, and get along well. There are a couple of guys that have already returned for their own reasons. I am in touch with the others from our area and know that we are, for the most part, looking forward to returning and performing as we all have in the past - turning out product that meets or exceeds customers' requirements in VERY good time, despite the odds. We're not focused on "revenge" on our fellow workers, nor is there anyone on our team that is even remotely thinking of ever sabotaging a product we are so proud to produce. There will be no animosity towards the company nor any intent to do anything but "get back to work" for us. That's how we are. I don't know what Sikorsky you might work in, but that's the one we work in. What happens if/when we return? I believe that we will come back grateful that this has been settled by the leadership of both the Union and the Company. I know, in the opinion of many a dual loyalty cannot exist, but I'm here to tell you that that is where most of the membership seems to lie. They are loyal to their oath to the Union and loyal to the company. There's exceptions, but not many. I see from today's posts that the majority are anti Union. Kinda like jumping into the lions' den, but what the hell. Have a good meal...
Step-n-a-half

I would like to see both the company and the union agree to binding arbitration. Then lets see what a third party would say to this.

Step-n-a-half its way too long for anyone to read make your post a little shorter.

Thats the wrong Stan.

Spectator @ 09:41 AM - EXCELLENT post! I couldn't have said it better myself!!

I think thats the Stan that used to work in VH and now is on the line. They call hin "Stash"

To Mr. Gozzi,

Your perspective of the women strikers made excellent reading.

But, 95% of the posted replies seem to be made with the hidden agenda of creating fear and causing division within the Teamsters Union.

If Sikorsky does not need the Teamsters, then why the "scare tactics" to make them abandon their fight for a decent contract and return to work without union representation?

If the salary workers are so elated with the overtime and personal satisfaction of actually building the helicopters, why are they so persistent in urging the Teamsters to return?

If "sad" wants so desperately to return to work then why does he not do so, instead of repeatedly trying to organize a mass picket line crossing originating at The Big Y supermarket in Ansonia?

It is my opinion that it would be far more constructive for all concerned to work on ending the strike via communication and negotiation than propaganda.

It saddens and disappoints me to see that a forum set up to give the reader insight of the strike has been misused as a tool of deception, intimidation, and insult.

HAPPY ST. PATRICKS DAY TO ALL

There's already a mediator involved and that's basically all that's required, that both sides participate with the help of the mediator. I don't think binding arbitration is going to happen. For one thing, the company has nothing to lose. They'll just wait it out. Once the union capitulates, they will lay 2/3 of them off and then go about business as usual.

Al Coholic, the guy that walks around out front. Just threw wood into the fire barrel

Why is every person who posts a comment that does not agree with yours engaging in propaganda, anon @ 9:53? Not that it isn't happening, I'm pretty sure there is a lot of BS posted by lots of folks, regardless of their affiliation (or non-affiliation) with Sikorsky and/or the Teamsters. But not every comment is company-sponsored propaganda. Comments like that only fuel that devestating amount of paranoia that already exists within the union rank and file.

What scare tactics, Jim?

STEP& HALF..LONG BUT TRUE..HOPE B.A. AND SALARY VALUE OUR EFFORTS AS MUCH AS WE VALUE OUR LOYALTIES...DON'T SEE IT FROM THE THREAT OF DECENDING OFFERS.

What is taking so long to determine what kind of strike this is? Is it because they don't want SIK to be able to hire permanent replacements sooner?

Isn't a scab something that covers the bleeding wound and is a sign of the beginning of the healing process?

THE ONLY RAT IS ROCCO HE'S A CUM GUZZLING GUTTER RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY RAT IS ROCCO HE'S A CUM GUZZLING GUTTER RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY RAT IS ROCCO HE'S A CUM GUZZLING GUTTER RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY RAT IS ROCCO HE'S A CUM GUZZLING GUTTER RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY RAT IS ROCCO HE'S A CUM GUZZLING GUTTER RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Step - N - A - Half -

A wonderful post, as always, and accurately reflects the state of mind of Flight Ops personnel. Your comment on dual loyalties is right to the point. We are loyal to the company, proud of the product, and loyal to our brothers and sisters in our union. There is sometimes some adversary conditions when cost and schedule interact with quality and safety, but these are invariably resolved in such a manner as to produce the best product we possibly can at as low a cost as can safely be done. I happen to love this job. Being an aviation enthusiast since childhood, it is a blast to work on the best helicopters in the world, go flying in them, and get paid to do it. To work at a job one loves is as good as it gets. We look forward to the day when both sides can come to a mutually face - saving agreement and we can get back to doing that which we do so well: producing the best helicopters around.

Tell Rocco to use the donated money to pay our insurance premium for the next three years.

You know my post from yesterday was probably too long for a lot of you to comprehend. Let me translate for those of you who did not get it( read the ones who need to get it). Sounding like my three year old "I WANT, I WANT, I WANT, etc." Does not and will not make something an unfair labor practice. Nor will it justify your individual behavior. If you don't like it stand up and quit hiding behind this blog. Get off your dead asses and do SOMETHING, ANYTHING, but quit bitching about the state of your own little world. If you want to fall on your own sword that's fine with me, if not, then don't. The rest of the world knows how this is gonna end, why don't you? Is that clear enough for you?

You guys just don't get do you! you are losing this fight big time, public support for you as gone away. Demand a vote, go back before you have nothing,no house, no car. Oh by the way, real smart calling and booing the company, real smart I am sure they were real upset as they were getting the paychecks that were more than $235.00!!

Hourly employees should not take any of Sikorsky's business decisions personally. Sure, there are an awful lot of personal attacks being made in this blog and probably elsewhere, but I have yet to see one single press release issued by Sikorsky that says, "We hate you, John Smith, because you are a Teamster and so we are going to force bad health care down your throat to make you either quit or strike long enough that we can replace you."

UTC made a business decision to put all employees on the 80/20. No personal attack there. If they have been planning to relocate, again, no personal attack, just a business decision to do business in a state in which it may be more economical to do so. If replacement workers are hired, well, what did you expect? Did you think Sikorsky's management would just sit around pining for you? No, nothing that personal.

Teamsters are hitting this from a heart and soul standpoint... fighting the good fight, sticking with your brothers and sisters. Very idealistic, but very unrealistic. The company doesn't see you as individuals that they want to persecute. The company doesn't even see you at all. They are just making business decisions. You have all been caught up in a tidal wave of change that really has little to do with this strike or with the rising cost of health care.

If you want to "win" this fight, then you have to go to Sikorsky with facts and figures. Give them some numbers that will convince them you are worth it. Unfortunately, I don't think such numbers exist. If they really are doing cycle time studies and proving that you have been sandbagging, then they are not going to want the collective you back. They would be better off to hire individuals who will perform to their standards.

IT AMAZES ME HOW NASTY YOU PEOPLE ARE ON THIS WEBSITE. THERE ARE 3000 PEOPLE PUTTING A LOT AT RISK BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS UNION MEMBERS AND FELLOW WORKERS.

I FOR ONE AM ENCOURAGING MY HUSBAND TO FIND ANOTHER JOB. THE CONSTANT STRESS OF BEING LAYED OFF AND OF THIS STRIKE JUST ISN'T WORTH IT. WHEN THE FACT IS THAT SIK IS SCREWING THEIR WORKERS MOST WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. NOW THEY ARE GETTING OLDER HAVE HIGHER WAGES AND THEY WANT TO REPLACE THEM WITH LOWER WAGE, YOUNGER WORKERS. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE UNIONS TO PROTECT THIS FROM HAPPENING. DO YOU SALARY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THAT LONG FEEL THAT SECURE????? SUPPORT YOUR FELLOW WORKERS. IF YOU DO THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THEM ON LINE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE WORKING RIGHT BESIDE YOU.

The layoffs will happen, Jim, because management has discovered through cycle time studies that it does not take as long to complete tasks as the union claims it does. They have already built one Blackhawk in 1800 hours from the ground up, which is half what it used to take union workers. Now that they know this, they will expect everyone to do their jobs in a productive manner. No more slowdowns, no more sandbagging. If if twice as much can be done by 2/3 less people, then believe you me, the axe will certainly fall.

Also, with the outsourcing and relocating, the jobs may still exists, but just not in Stratford. If they relocate most of the operations to a right-to-work state, they will hire new workers in that state. More layoffs for CT workers.

Finally, if this is ruled by the NLRB as an economic strike, which it probably will, then the replacement workers may be kept on permanently. You will only have to be called back if a suitable opening arises.

And that, Jim, is why the layoffs will happen.

I think I may know why it is taking so long to get a determination as to whether or not this is an economic or ULP strike... I don't think an official complaint has been filed in Hartford. The union has to file a charge with the NLRB first, then the NLRB has to determine if there's a basis for a formal complaint. If no charges have been filed or if the NLRB said there was no basis for a complaint, then there's no determination to be made. Any live close enough to Hartford to drive over there and check out the log book to see if anything has even been filed? I called yesterday, but they won't tell you over the phone.

I have a serious question after reading numerous posts in the blog.

How many helicopters are behind schedule as of today at Sikorsky. And, will Sikorsky be able to "catch up" and meet the agressive production schedule for this year? I understand they have obligations for over 230 helicopters of various models. Aren't the customers; both military and commercial, unhappy with having to wait longer than anticipated to receive their product?

Thanks in advance!

A real question... if there was no complaint filed, when can SIK hire permanent replacements? And do you all think they will go ahead with that?

I can not believe that more union members who want to go back,will not support doing it together. do you know how easy it would be walking in with 1000 other union members who think this strike is stupid! Really think about it and join a 1000 smart union members. Together we can win! Big y ansonia at noon March27th.

I think the customers will probably be able to absorb a delay of a few months, especially if the major operations are relocated to a right-to-work state. It could potentially save the customers, commercial and military, millions of dollars to have the work done someplace that is cheaper. If it were going to be a problem, especially on the military side, you would see the Pentagon making an appearance in this labor dispute.

If a blackhawk was built in 1800 hrs. Who was the meatstamper that did the inspection. Yea I said meatstamper. I hope that thing flies. I wouldn't want to be the one to tell the crews family that their loveone was injured or killed.

DCMA, 1027.

10:27 - that was uncalled for. My son has to fly in those helicopters and if you think I haven't had a lot of sleepless nights over this, you're very wrong. I can only hope that the individuals making them are doing the very best that they can. My son tells me that they are getting work done and people are being very careful and that there have been no injuries since you all left and that's unheard of.

Some replacements have already been hired on a "temporary" basis. For some reason, the term "21 days" keeps popping in my head, but I haven't been able to find anything that gives a timeline as to when permanent replacements can come in.

According to the WARN Act: "An employer does not need to provide notice to strikers or to workers who are part of the bargaining unit(s) which are involved in the labor negotiations that led to a lockout when the strike or lockout is equivalent to a plant closing or mass layoff. Non-striking employees who experience an employment loss as a direct or indirect result of a strike and workers who are not part of the bargaining unit(s) which are involved in the labor negotiations that led to a lockout are still entitled to notice. An employer does not need to give notice when permanently replacing a person who is an "economic striker" as defined under the National Labor Relations Act."

It just goes to show you if all these time studies are true that management has done a much worse job than the hourly worker. If this is proven true then maybe the company should be taking a much harder look at the real culprit here and that is the supervisors. Apparently they havn't done their jobs for many years and maybe the layoff should start with them

yes

Okay, let's clear it up for 10:27... spending 1800 of the 3600 yours you claim it takes to make a Blackhawk on the toilet or chatting with your cohorts doesn't make it safer than one built in 1800 hours spent exclusively on the bird.

If you do it right the first time instead of making mistakes and then having to redo everything, you can conceivably finish a project in half the time it normally takes.

Hang in there Teamsters. All is well.

Sandbagging is not the fault of the supervisors, believe me. How many times has a supervisor had a grievance filed against him/her simply because he has to chase down an hourly worker who is supposed to be working, but cannot be found on the bird? How many times has a supervisor wanted to fire someone for not doing their job, only to have his or her hands tied by the union? It's not just this company and this union, unionism in general causes this problem in every company where unions exist. I do see this problem ending for Sikorsky, though, thank God.

It just goes to show you if all these time studies are true that management has done a much worse job than the hourly worker. If this is proven true then maybe the company should be taking a much harder look at the real culprit here and that is the supervisors. Apparently they havn't done their jobs for many years and maybe the layoff should start with them.

Listen, I worked on those aircraft and seen the slacker do some hack jobs. I found some f ups and brought to the leaders attention or inspections attention. They took me out of that area because I kept finding errors caused by more senior workers. I know what I saw and hope that they have the same people who are just as careful as I was in building these hi tech aircraft. I only say this because now the company is feeling the pressure and will be putting the pressure on the non union workers building these machines who don't have a whole lot of experience.
Most of these union workers are careful in what they do and it all depends on who is training you. I had an excellent trainer and I grateful for that.
I voted for this contract and want to keep doing what I do best. That is building the best aircraft in the world.

Sandbagging is not the fault of the supervisors, believe me. How many times has a supervisor had a grievance filed against him/her simply because he has to chase down an hourly worker who is supposed to be working, but cannot be found on the bird? How many times has a supervisor wanted to fire someone for not doing their job, only to have his or her hands tied by the union? It's not just this company and this union, unionism in general causes this problem in every company where unions exist. I do see this problem ending for Sikorsky, though, thank God.

On the last day of work, a Friday, a TON of parts miraculously showed up in many places throughout the shop. I saw this personally as I am sure that many of you have. There was obviously a company "stockpile" or planned holdback on parts so that when we we voted not to ratify there would be an acceptable number of parts available in many areas. This allowed the company to have work available for the time we were out, perhaps for good. What does this mean? IMHO it was a smart move with deeper implications. It would allow the company to show work being done that wasn't done before the strike. As for times on jobs, that is set by the company in my area and I believe in all areas. Frankly we consistently do the work (assuming that there are parts!) in UNDER the time allocated for the procedures. The assumption that there have been time studies done that reflect a shorter requirement does not concern most of us. We are capable and willing to do more than we do right now IF THERE ARE PARTS! I know that in my area at least we would LOVE to have the challenge of having an upstream that could "bury" us in work. We respond well to that kind of challenge, so that kind of rhetoric is a waste on those I know. I suggest a different tactic....

UNION BUSTERS..YA DONE GOOD! NOW GO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN SOME CHINESE!

Then you should thank the company for their generosity in letting you work and paying you, even if there were not enough parts to do all the jobs. They could have just as easily laid you off for a month or two until the parts flow problem was fixed. But you would have to drop this false notion of "corporate greed" to see how things really are.

You better go back to work or you won't have a job to go back to.

Thanks to some excellent investments - UTC is one - I no longer work.

I am so fed up with all the false reports on here, from an hourly/salary fight, to these made up job timing reports. You can NEVER do a time trila without experienced workers, and the FAA for one is not certifying any helis, so you do not have experienced people doing these jobs. i also hear, the NAVy wont sign off on any ships, as no certified people are working on them. Just look above in the sky, this Black Hawk that we keep seeing is one being flown with the same test blades on it, and thats clear to anyone who knows anything about the plant at all. As for the HR people, Basso,Beth Amato, these people are just plain comapny idiots, they will do what they are told, plain and simple.On the other hand, form what I have ben seeing and hearing for myself, Rocco and his E-board, who knows what the truth is from them? Why head to Philly, our state reps arent doing anything, what makes you think a Penn rep will do anything, I may be wrong. If I was in Rocco's shoes, I would be presenting an offer to the mediator as often as I could, as I would want my people back to work, and this is not happening. Do any of you know who the mediator is, its John Carpino, ex- Sikorsky HR head, so exactly what are his priorities in all of this? I myself have 25 years with the company, and heard for myself at Weds's meeting, the 80/20 is a given, thats what Rocco basically said, but 3 mins later, someone asked him what this fight is about, and he says healthcare, so whats the deal here? I for one am more worried about job security, outsourcing, etc, so at least I can afford the extra the insurance will cost me, so I say as part of any deal, work guarantees should be a promary focus. As I sit and think about things, why as union members, why we cant have sat in on any negotiations in the past, or evennow, so we can hear and see for oueselves exactly whats being negotiated? Rocco said he wont hang us out to dry, but what point is that for each individual, as I hear from friends they are close to heading back to work already? I was on the strike line yesterday, and so many guys at Sikorsky are sitting there, smoking cigars, like this is some sort of picnic, or party, we should all wake up, this is not fun. I for one couldnt look at myself for crossing a picket line, but I may be in a better situation than some, I dont know, but there comes a time when we all will have to make that decision, and I say get an offer to UTC, have a re-vote, and go back in as a union, not people crossing at different times and going in as a splintered piece of nothing union. I for one dont have problems with salary workers, and get along with them, so why is this being turned into a sal/hr debate, someone tell me? Bottom line here, Rocco, he had better get his ass back in town, get us an offer of reasonability, and get us back to work, before he is out as union president, and his slate is gone, and Im not saying tey arent trying, but there comes a time when people want and need change. There has to be a compropmise somewheres, just look at Iraq yesterday, all the Black Hawks doing what they do best, serving this country, and UTC and Rocco should be ashamed of themselves, letting their egos dictate what happens here, when guys and women are putting their lives on the line far away from here, and neeed these helis!! P.S.-I for one have said NOTHING to any salary guys or women going to work, as thats their job, but the strike crossers(I hate the scab word), they get a yell or two! And please, keep the demeaning women comments to yourself, its embarrassing to us all.

ban gayboy,
tiered of his cut and paste tatics

Think about how much $$$ you have lost already.

ive lost over 5 grand already are we really getting anywhere?

Just think of your own survival.
Do you really think that the Teamsters really care about you and yours.?
Do they sit at your table at the end of the day?
Do they care about providing everything you need to support the family?
Free or reduced lunch for the children?
Think about the pit of dispare you have dug.
Aren't you a better provider than free lunch?
Do the kids want to see the leader/provider/mentor or do you think they want to see the nasty name calling, circle walking, chanting thug like person outside of the gate?
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO ANSWER TO IS YOUR FAMILY.....THAT'S IT!!!!!
They look to you in time of need and when in search of guidance.
Daddy,
The kids make fun of me because I have to get free lunch. Can you just sell the new truck so they won't laugh at me any more.

Kudos to 6:48!! These guys are pathetic assholes! They will have to answer for all of this in the end, some way, some how. Hopefully one of these woman who have been so disrespected will one day be their superiors! Payback is a bitch!

GO BACK TO WORK. Save yourself!

I say I wont cross any picket line, but after 4 weeks, and who knows how many more, we are losing more and more, how long do we saty out? I just hope this gets settled once and for all, and soon, cuz this is bigger than all of us together, so lets take our jobs back, before its too late.

i'll give it one more week than i have to do what i have to do

I'm Not Joking. You Will Have No Job To Go Back To.

my job will be there

No it won't. Don't be so sure.

WOW!!!!! Nice post gayboy.....

well good luck training anyone to run my job it takes at least a year

It can and will be done

It can and will be done

how the heck do you know this lol

It can and will be done

Oh yea, daddy doesn't feel like working right now, so lets get Susie, Johnnie, Bobby a free lunch! That will save us some money. And while you are all at it, why don't you explain to your young ones how when all else fails, the government, or some innocent taxpayer, will pay your way. "Don't worry honey, you can just mooch off of the system! Now, lets go get you that game boy you have been asking for"!

what makes you such an expert i'll bet you don't even work there

All our jobs can be done by anyone, and dont think they cant, if we learned them, why cant anyone else? The thing is, it would take awhile, lets face it, and the quality would not be as good. Sikorsky wants us all back,as they need us to do these jobs, just as we need them for our livelihoods ourselves, so lets get back to work.We get back when Rocco gets off his big ass and does what he is supposed to do!

i thought so lol

I'm telling you the truth. Look at how many manager's sons and daughters are back. Look at the scab list. That's all I'm going to say.

we will be back in less than 2 weeks

ya i know alot of managers sons and there not in there lol

How about enough of the fighting about free lunches, etc, that has nothing to do with what this is about. Also, I have been a 25 year worker, so alot of my taxes have gone to benefit others on welfare, un-employment, etc, things I dont believe in, so why cant some get a free lunch once in awhile off of you still working?

Look at all the manager's childerns names. Put it together. They know the truth. Stop waiting and just go back.

meat pocket, now that was good gayboy!!

There not putting all the names of all the people who went back. That list is not complete.

sikorsky union workers have given millions to united way and other charitable members so don't knock us we give to those less fortunit

Not with the Teamster you won't!
We're in it for the long haul.
I've been wanting the summer off for quite awhile now. Spring is almost here. No more fires needed
I'm waiting for the nice day just sipping iced tea while all you salary jerks are working your tail off for tha man

" A womans place in in her union"!!!!!

That is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard!! I am sure you are making your children proud!!

These kids of the managers, they dont know anything different than I do, its that they STILL are looking for daddy to protect them, even after all these years, and it may or may not work, and no, thats not a threat, its just that who knows what some will do to these that crossed the line?

the young and the stupid thats whove crossed the young and the stupid they have to suffer the consequences the rest of there years there

That's not it. You keep believing in a Union that doesn't have you in their best interest.

to 10:48 i love you, that was a great e-mail. I may not be able to stay out much longer. I will be because i do not have enought cash to pay another month of bills. I looked at the union site for help and i have to be a month late on my mortgage to get help why would i want my credit to be ruined. Yes maybe i live above my means but not really i have saved but everyday living is expesive. just your normal bills, food childrens activites and mortgage. I had a bad year last year and had to use some of my savings last year. So my union brothers and sisters will hate me for supporting them as long as i could. Is this right. I would never be mad at anyone who needs to go back to work. god bless us all we need it.

who are you jeeesh

Another thing, these kids only got their jobs cuz the union got them for them, and believe me, I was passed over for some of these managers kids, so I do know. So i get screwed by the union, and the ones that get the job cross THEIR picket line, maybe the union will wake up?

My son-in-law works in AFO and according to what he has been told by his supervisor, all of AFO and many other departments/operations/shops are all definitely moving. He said they didn't tell them exactly when and where they are moving, but he said for AFO it will probably be someplace in Virginia after school lets out up here.

I wasn't sure if I should post that here or not, but I figure it can't hurt, no one will believe me anyway. I hate to see the grandkids go, but you've got to go where the jobs are, I guess.

oh how right you are talk about nepotizem

You put your life in the hands of an unreliable Union, you and your family's will suffer. Good luck. I hope your spouse has a good job.

she does thank you

Sad, you have to worry about you, noone else will! As for myself, I guess I am one of the more fortunate, but after being laid off twice, I did what I had to, made myself a side business, and do alright, but as I get older, I see that there is NO sense hating, especially if somebody has to have this job! I may not talk to anyone that crosses the line, maybe I shall, maybe I will cross too, so I dont judge anyone anymore. Bottom line, I say we will be back within 2 weeks, I could be wrong, but whatever your choice is, its yours and only yours, so do what ya have to do I say.

I work in there and I have family in there too. But I got my job on my own. Your theories are poor.

Forget nepotism, how about despotism? That's all union leaders are, glorified despots.

This just in Sikorsky Aircraft to layoff 1,000 workers in august.

Anon 11:16, link please or STFU. Thank you.

wrong...
layoff @ end of 3Q

GET THE UNION OUT OF SIKORSKY AIRCRAFT

All this talk about ALL these departments is getting old, noone knows what is gonna happen! And if it does, its not cuz of this strike, it has been happening, Sikorsky plans well(years ) in advance, believe me about that. I have 25 years in Sikorsky, and from day 1, have about moving, layoffs , etc, so I have to see it to believe it.

No, a union is needed in any shop I say, but you dont need a Teamsters trucking union in a factory, why not a machinists union, and why cant we as memebers request a union we actually want?

Strikers SUCK

Who cares which "Stan" it is. Unless of course you mobsters want to make sure you beat up the right person! Geeeeeeez you are all soooo pathetic!!

WHO CAN LIVE ON $242.00 A WEEK?? Don't you just love the Union. THanks for the pocket change.

well to get a new union in there has to be one year of no union at all

$232.00. I was dreaming

has there been any talks between the union anmd sikorsky's?

NO. Sik isn't going to budge.

not on the 80/20 we all know that

I sit and wonder, why cant we as members get someof us together, and offer a deal to UTC, we can do better than what we are getting! Is there any protocol as to what you can and cant do, in getting a deal for yourself if the union leaders dont?

can't do that oh how i wish we could

Take a look at what other companies pay for insurance. Just sign and go back.

nothing going on till tuesday

give me a pen

Oh yeah. You Have NO say only Roco does. I forgot.

just give us something to vote on and we will be back

Local 1150 members stand strong and united. If the bullsh** here is getting to you - GET OFFLINE AND KEEP YOUR SANITY AND CALM. Look all this over and you will see that there is a huge amount of trash talk here. If you want to have some conversation just go to the line or call a friend, maybe go down to Union Hall. Nobody can understand where you're at as well as another person in the same situation. You will find little here of any real value, maybe not even this post...

I would like to remind all since UTC is a taxable employer Unemployment is a payroll expenses and the individual employee never pays into the program. No tax dollars came from a worker's pocket. Still don't know why the Union decided not to participate. I hate to say it as a union supporter they dropped the ball not offering to work under the old contract

Stop being greedy look at the real world. Is their offer really that. bad? NO it isn't

everyone ive talked to says they just want to vote but we can't because rocco has to approve it first i don't know why

No body helpsat the Union Hall. I've been there. I asked to talk To Rocco they said he wasn't in. And then he walked by. Thanks for the lie.

we get a vote we get our jobs back if there are any left

I have no problem with any child getting a free lunch off of me when that child actually needs to get a free lunch! I do, however, have a problem feeding other peoples children when those other people have a GOOD paying job with GOOD benefits and can very easily put his big giant picket sign down and GO BACK TO WORK!!!! This is what I have a problem with!!! I also do not want to be paying for these childrens lunches when their parents find out they have NO JOB LEFT because they chose to walk out on the one they had!!!! That is what I have a problem with!!!!!!!!!

the union just wants to be in the limelite we need to go to work NOW

does the rest of ct have to pay 3500 bucks before insurance kicks in i don't think so

You must tell them what you want. DON'T LET THEM BULLY YOU ANY LONGER>

No body helpsat the Union Hall. I've been there. I asked to talk To Rocco they said he wasn't in. And then he walked by. Thanks for the lie.

You're full of @#%!*.

lol you stand up at a meeting and say that and you'll be mugged

Does the rest of ct make as much money as you.NO they don't.

3500 bucks thats not pocket change

Local 1150 members stand strong and united. If the bullsh** here is getting to you - GET OFFLINE AND KEEP YOUR SANITY AND CALM. Look all this over and you will see that there is a huge amount of trash talk here. If you want to have some conversation just go to the line or call a friend, maybe go down to Union Hall. Nobody can understand where you're at as well as another person in the same situation. You will find little here of any real value, maybe not even this post...

NO. I Picked up my check 2 Sat ago. and asked I swear to god that is the truth!

ill answer any question anyone asks and i will not lie

Local 1150 members stand strong and united. If the bullsh** here is getting to you - GET OFFLINE AND KEEP YOUR SANITY AND CALM. Look all this over and you will see that there is a huge amount of trash talk here. If you want to have some conversation just go to the line or call a friend, maybe go down to Union Hall. Nobody can understand where you're at as well as another person in the same situation. You will find little here of any real value, maybe not even this post

YEAH GO DO SOMETHING ELSE AND FORGET ABOUT YOUR JOBS AND KEEP YOUR BLINDERS ON!

GO Down to the Union Hall and get IGNORED!!!!!!!!

After yesterday, I have lost all respect for your union members on the picket line, the name calling of the employees is bad enough but to call service men scabs is the last straw. As for needing 1000 people to cross the line together show some backbone!!!! Cross by yourself

Don't believe me that they ignore you just call them...1-800-526-4971. See For YOURSELF.

The people who crossed are making Damn GOOD money while the strikers scrounge up change to pay their bills. HA HA who's the stupid ones now

Military sevice men were called scabs?

EVERYONE is called SCABS. Pathetic.

Our customers have to drive through the pickett line and be harrassed. It's screwed up.

reply to 11:45 yes, they were !!!!!!

At Wednesday's meeting we were told of some hefty donations...Call the Hall if you need help!!!! Look at the 1150 website and it says they have recieved MINIMAL donations and your house needs to be going to foreclosure to help...WTF is up with that? Lose 4 weeks pay(so far) and then let your credit go to shit and then maybe we can help...

ATTENTION ALL LOCAL 1150 MEMBERS...

ST. Patrick’s Day is here again.
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Just what we need, more drunken fat union people, and I am on strike myself, but some of these guys are acting like this is fun, and like a big party....ITS NOT!!

Then don't go to the party!

my stike pay will buy lots of green draft beer

Id rather be going to vote on a contract, and when all you guys get that thru your heads instead of sitting back and having a grand ole time, maybe then we will get back to work..

Contrary to what the malarkey in this blog would lead you to believe... Being on strike is a setback, not the end of the world. Life's too short not to enjoy it.

HAPPY ST. PATTY'S DAY TO ALL !!!

To all of you 'blogger's' who aren't involved in this strike, you are quite ignorant. Everyone has an opinion but get your facts straight. Not everyone in the union voted for this strike, not everyone is harrassing people crossing the line.
99% of the union members are hard working men and women just trying to make a living to support their families. They aren't out boozing and partying it up. They're just like you, trying to survive. I don't agree with the union, but evidently over 2ooo workers did, so they strike. For the uninvolved to generalize and call the strikers bums,greedy, goons and thugs is just wrong. There's no need to go there.
Regarding the comments about the schools offering free or reduced lunches, that's an option many may now be forced to take, but it doesn't mean they are sucking off of society's teat. You don't know how many times these parents supported their respective schools with donations of money and or time before this strike. To even accuse these people of using the system is so hypocrytical. Especially when you see people on welfare abusing the system for generations.
Try being a little compassionate to the strikers. Granted there are some A # 1 jerks out there but for the most part the strikers are just regular joes trying to improve things for present and future workers.

Teamsters wife.....well said

What happens to the union if the company decides to only use non-union labor?

I am one of those regular guys, to group us union guys as one collective mess is just wrong! Just like saying all salary people are more educated...theyre not! I work 2 jobs, never abused the comp, points system, etc, show respect for my bosses, get along with salary workers, I guess just cuz Im in the union, Im a bad guy?

The "Union gentlemen" that barks out slurs at the gate to whomever enters is just an example of how quickly you'll turn on your fellow worker. Even if the stike doesn't include me.
You deserve EVERYTHING YOU GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROCCO: "Please, Congressman Weldon, please help me put an end to corporate greed at Sikorsky Aircraft! Please help me get my members a better deal!"

CONGRESSMAN WELDON: "Well, Mr. Calo, show me that your 3500 members can build aircraft better, quicker and cheaper than 2000 non-union employees in Virginia can build them and I'll see what I can do."

Nicely stated 12:07 - hey, and you were polite. I guess the blogger who said you get more with sugar than vinegar has a point. Vulgarity on the blog is unnecessary and ineffective and hurtful to those hassled - it's like yelling all the time; after awhile nobody listens to anything you say - even if it's right on the money.

No one is a "bad guy" just by belonging to a union, but the union does represent the collective YOU. That's probably what most people are complaining about, not you the individual, but the collective YOU... the UNION. The only advice I can give to those who are angered by this is to do what you can to improve the union's image and change the stereotype. Other than that, the only advice I can give is this... if you lay down with dogs, you're gonna wake up with fleas.

To "teamster's wife",

Very well put.

I have been paying into the "system" for 29 years without taking back a dime.

I am proficient in my chosen trade and I take pride in my work. I do not sleep on the job or
take longer than necessary on jobs. I complete my assignments in a timely and efficient manner.

I am often commended for my work by my supervisor, manager and engineers. I have received several performance awards for my efforts both in and beyond my job description.

The insults being exchanged here may apply to some of the hourly work force, but NOT to the vast majority.

Did everyone read the Teamsters 3/14 release? It's so funny I almost peed my pants reading it. Yes, Sikorsky has really insulted you, haven't they? Jesus Christ, they offer to send you to college on their dime, they pay you the best wages and offer you the best benefit package in the freaking state (and possibly nation) and they let you get away with so much crap that your job security is almost guaranteed, no matter how poorly you perform. Oh, yeah, what an INSULT! I wish someone would insult ME like that! I could use a few extra bucks!

Sometimes I wonder if we, the good workers would be better off being a salaried worker, get raises on merit, not just cuz we have to? I mean yes, we would be subject to be let go at will, thats a detriment, but if you are a worker, what should the worry be? Just a thought there..

Why would the company care if the Teamsters remain united?! I mean, what difference could idt possibly make to them?

LMFAO, thats good, I agree, and I am one of the workers on strike! Honestly, well said there.

Did Rocco fly down to Philly?

The company is not trying to buist the union, they could care less if this union is in here or not. They are going to offer the union just what they want to, no more, no less, regardless if this union or any other is involved.

In today's society where obesity and weight loss are such important topics, maybe the Teamsters could make some extra money if they marketed their their new exercise program. You know, the EXERCISE IN FUTILITY?!

If Sikorsky gave us a contract today, asked us to vote on it before Rocco & Harvey get back from the UCONN game in Philadelphia.. we would all go back to work on monday.........LOL

If you go to www.sikorsky.com and review their press releases since the strike began and compare those to the one on the Teamsters site, well, the company's are just more professional and more factual. The Teamsters releases just sound like cheerleading and campaign slogans. Where are the facts, Teamsters?

I wish UTC would offer a deal today, see if these idiots running the union would get back here ASAP, or stay down there on a leave of fultility?

Exercise in futility, that's too funny! Maybe some of them could become sex therapists, being that they have maintained a constant circle jerk outside the gate since this started.

The 2 words-Honesty and Teamsters are not meant to go together!!!!!

Yep, 1233, a good example of oxymoron... emphasis on MORON. LOL!

Does anyone on here now live close enough to Hartford to be willing to drive over to the regional NLRB office and find out if a formal complaint has been filed? If it takes six months to investigate, well, one month has already been wasted.